To bad some of his facts were wrong. Also maybe he will bring back jobs from China where the companies some of his money is invested in

Nancy - Shall we talk facts? Perhaps the President will reconsider sending US taxpayer dollars to Fisker in Finland to build electric cars.

Ok if that's the case, I think the government should pay back the $800 billion spent on the Iraq War to taxpayers.

Steven you make em no sense. Should soldiers give back pay? Why government spend $800 B on Medicare a year we dont have and causing deficits.

Steve - I know. I wonder what Hillary Clinton and Harry Reid were thinking when they voted in favor of the Iraq War appropriations?!?!

They are not two tools.

They are only two tools when a DEMOCRAT VOTER is not happy with the DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT anymore.

People crack me up.

What do you mean Rebecca.... Didn't you see thtat Romney knows what he is talking about... did you tune into the debate? I agree we will be in very bad shape if Obama gets elected again... so if you love your country go out and vote for Romney... are you in the construction business with your toolbags?

Nancy, there was a show on last night focusing on the Mickey Drexler, from that great 'American' company J Crew. He kept focusing on how they source all of their fabric from Europe and then send it all to China where all of the clothing is manufactured. So much for American jobs....that is the way of business these days. He commented that their $138 shirts would cost at least 2-3 times more if they were made outside of China. It has become the standard to send out manufacturing, and therefore jobs. Obama did exactly the same when his/govt funding to the auto industry ended up overseas where much of the manufacturing is actually done.

Tonto
I don't think you were paying attention, and you are repeating yourself 5 Trillion, 5 Trillion, 5 Trillion, 5 Trillion, 5 Trillion, you must truly have been drinking the Cool Aid! 5 Trillion Is an Obama number and there is no truth in it at all, but I am wasting my time here you already drank the Cool Aid your lost!

Romney's Revenue Neutral tax cut Means a $900 billion dollar reduction to domestic federal programs. Programs like VA BENEFITS, MEDICARE, NURSING HOME PAYMENTS, EDUCATION AID, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION, ETC.
Make both Romney & Ryan spell out, detail what their term revenue neutral means as it applies to their 5 Trillion dollar tax cut which will provide a $250,000 tax cut for each Millionaire! And a prediction-----They won't give you the details, they will not directly or indirectly answer that question. Listen, Listen, Listen to them.

Hey Tonto,
Romney just ripped the mask off your side-kick.

TONTO
Who as already cut around $700 billion fron medicare? Answer BHO nto Romney.

Sorry to tell you, its obama. As of Jan, a knee replacement will be elective surgery for those on medicare. Don't try to say it's not true, a dear friend's mom, is having the surgery soon because her dr said it won't be covered as of the first of the year. None of obama's followers will accept anything bad about him, as truth. He won't either, he has news stories yanked if they make him look bad, like his daughter's trip to Mexico. We had to pay for so many secret service to go with her. Let me tell you, I can't afford a vacation. I can't even afford to go to Michigan to see my granddaughter. But I paid for this spoiled brat's vacation, and her mother's too! I've had enough. You did drink the Cool Aid.

Elective surgery doesn't mean it's not covered. What it means is that your doctor will need to justify (precertify) the need for the surgery. This helps the patient too who won't undergo unneeded surgery. I have a sleep apnea monitor. It had to be justified by a sleep study and continued use is precertified annually with a doctor visit to my pulmonoligist and various breathing tests. I find nothing wrong with that. Be garteful that Medicare doesn't hand over money for just anything your doctor wants. Need is the requirement.

Why should there be any "free" prescriptions or "free" health exams. Everyone should have to pay something. This is how you all got locked up onto the Democratic Plantation. They gave you something for free that never should have been, and now you cry like hell when someone threatens to start charging you for it. Get off the grub wagon. No more "free" rides. People used to be embarrassed and ashamed to take something for nothing. Let's start moving back in that direction.

Thank you Colonel! Glad someone sees it that way...dependance on the government is at an all time high

Plastic phony smile???

Thanls for the great content JoAnne.

You also are a liberal that realizes Obama is not worth anything.

Romney was terrific.

JoAnne, if you read some background on Romney, you will actually find a very sincere, smart, decent, family-oriented human being. Have you ever observed how devoted he is to his wife, children, and grandchildren and how the kids flock to him? He is really a genuine person and the person he seems to be in public. He is not plastic. And most importantly, he is utterly qualified compared to the incumbent who has absolutely no qualification to be where he is. His was a popularity appointment from four years ago and fortunately most people now realize he is an empty suit. Let's hope it's not too late to reverse the severe damage they've done to our economy and our country.

Thank you, Colonel, but, having read JoAnne's comment and that of her pal, Rebecca, they seem kind of hopeless to me. How could anyone equate Romney's excellent character with that of Oblahblah? If they can't tell the difference by now, they have both been excessively influenced by the likes of Maddow, Matthews, and their ilk. That's too bad.

Joanne,
Since when has looks had anything to do with being a good president... rethink this!

JoAnne - So you would prefer a president who "looks" a certain way? How shallow are your requisites for the leader of the free world?

States are exactly the entity that should solve their own problems. Feds can't make logical decisions that work for people in the southeast as well as people in the mid-west. Cultures are different and require different solutions. Hence states rights as laid out plainly in the constitution. Check your histroy. The federal gov't has grown well beyond anything ever intended. If you for one minute believe the federal gov't has any indiviual or groups interest before it's own you are sorely mistaken. We are already paying the price for this and will continue to as long as the federal gov't is in charge. Time to get back to states rights as it should be. At least that way people could vote with their feet.

It's a lot easier to hold your state accountable than the federal government. If you like huge spending and all the freebies and the high taxes that go with it, you live and vote in places like California. You want some control then you vote for those people who will control spending, which usually means Republicans.

It is called the 10th Amendment. For every income tax dollar we in NJ send to DC we get .61 back, where does our .39 go? We have a much larger voice when things are done on a state and local level than we do in DC. NJ is paying more than its fair share.

ray, did it occur to you that 50 states EACH have their own individual problems? Don't be so simplistic. And if you don't believe that ignoring the threats in Libya is dangerous (PEOPLE DIED, YOU KNOW) then you either need to wake up or stop voting until you do,sir.

@ray that is exactly the way our forefathers set up the government, as a REPUBLIC, with states having the power and the federal govt having limited powers. Give the power to the states and they will solve their own problems, i.e. Wisconsion and Indiana.

States are better able to deal with their own issues.

Federal aid is like giving yourself a blood transfusion with a needle in each arm and a leaking tube connesting them. Only some of the blood is transferred while a large puddle of your blood is wasted.

Ray, our Constitution was set up to allow the states to govern the majority of issue.... education, health care, etc. The government should intervene when necessary, but the top - down approach by Obama is not working. I think our Founding Fathers would be very disappointed with the Big government of today.

Which is worse?? I would rather have anyone but Obama

Ray,
Romney is not dangerous... he's smart... Have you ever owned your own business? Lots of savy is required and lots of smarts.... If you truly believe that goverment should be so big... then you are out of touch with what America is all about! We should all be able to climb as high as we want without the government telling us to stop..... I am a small business owner and believe me when I tell you it is not easy and Romney is right!!!!

Romney is dangerous is an understatement. I wonder how many people were put out of work when he was with Baine Capital, that was the tip of the iceberg after that. He HELPED put us in position we are in now. Obama may not be the best to some, but he did use most of the ideas that the Republicans wanted and they still shot him down. The Republicans DON'T want him, for what reason is there own. He didn't get much done because Congress and the Senate was always on vacation. And as far as the deficit George Bush was the problem, we had money in the bank before he got his hands on it. All the wars and never paid for, but we could have roads to nowhere and all the pet projects that Congress and the Senate wanted.....like our own Local Government, like passing bond issues for items that should gave been in the budget because of the Cap. So now we put off paying for our borrowing to the next generation, BUT they got there money......

Jon,
I Sooo, Agree with you.

Romney hadhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/mitt-romney-inaccuracies-_n_1939337.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular 10 issues that were not correct go to aol

Nancy HuffPost is hardly an accurate source, stop taking the media's word as fact...I read that same article and they do not actually disprove any of his claims. They simply try to spin things to make Obama look better. When discussing Romney's claim on Obamacare, they say:

The indirect effects of Obamacare have yet to be determined, since the law has yet to be implemented. But as the law is written now, Obamacare doesn't cut seniors' benefits as part of its plan to curb health care costs, according to USA Today.

So "according to USA Today", we think that perhaps Romney may possibly be wrong

Best stinger of the debate. Summed up the performance of the last 4 years in a nutshell. It scares me to think how many other non-performing programs we never heard about, and how much of our tax dollars got thrown away by this administration. I don't know about all the other commentors here, but I could use these dollars alot more than Obamas friends that helped get him elected. Friends BTW that essentially robbed our government of BILLIONS of dollars....Solandra and all the other GREEN ENERGY companies that have since bellied-up. Sad to say, but maybe we DO need a business man to hep us out of this recession....

This is just another "Factual" example of how DRASTIC the "parabolic curve" $$$$$ spending increases & mismanagement under the Obama administration has been & continues to be. How can anyone with a "good" grade school education dispute the facts....much less those with a High School and/or College and/or PhD degrees? It's time for REAL "transparancy & change".The current Admin.has NOT been ABLE to deliver (still blaming Bush and everyone else but themselves) so perhaps we as AMERICANS can have the courage to send the right message to our chrildren ??

BHO minus his teleprompter is an anemic debtor, no security blanket no star!

I see the polls and they say that New Jersey is a Obama state. I have never voted for him for anything. I wouldn't vote for him for dog catcher!!!

Caroline ...it tells us all how really bad this state is .You'll see as for givers and takers ,this state within 10 years will have a lot less givers (producers) than the few that are living here now .That's why all you ever hear out of the progressives "tax the ,rich tax the rich "...a broken record stuck on gimme gimme I want yours !

John M.

11:21 am on Thursday, October 4, 2012

That should be shown on Comedy Central. It will be hilarious. On second thought, there will probably be a viewer warning scrolled across the screen saying, "Some may find the following program disturbing since it will make a senior citizen look like the complete idiot that he is."

I can't wait to see that either. These thugs from chicago and Biden who doesn't have a clue on what's going on is the reason why he keeps putting his foot in his mouth. When Biden go elected to vp his reaction was I have the easiest job in the world and I get paid for it. What a creep. Why do we keep these people in office without term limits. They are not going to do it so we have too.
When???????????????????????????

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/mitt-romney-inaccuracies-_n_1939337.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Jamie,

I love your post! Would you mind if I posted it on Facebook? What you say is quite awesome. I won't post it without your permission.

11) Bows to Chinese
Actually, he bows to the Saudi King

Jamie Lyons,
You state that you were a former supporter for obama. but now you have changed your mind with the above listed items in your comment's. did anything that Romney said last night (if you watched the debate). help you change your mind? or was it just you waking up to the facts that you mentioned in your comment. (I did not vote for obama in 2008 because I could see his socialist agenda coming)Anyway welcome to the real world and thank you for seeing the light so to speak. Now you should try to wake up your fellow Americans and help them see the true about obama before it's too late. GOD BLESS.

**************ROMNEY/RYAN 2012***************************

You left out bowing to a Saudi King, while those present smiled and smirked...

Feel free Kathy....Thanks for asking.

Jamie you hit a grand slam!

too bad all your points are untrue!! 1.according to FORBES magazine, Obama has raise the deficit less than any pres back to eisenhauer. 3. taxes for all are at a 50 year low. 5. has cut over $1 trillion in gov spending in first term already 7. instead of losing jobs at huge rate, growing jobs and didnt have depression! also, saved auto industry. PLEAS GO TO SOME REPUTABLE FACT CHECK!!!

Jamie, Kathy,

I think everyone should post this on facebook! My hat is off to you Jamie

@JerseyGrandma - You should go do some serious fact checking yourself. Saved the Auto Industry? You are watching too much MSLSD. 7 of 10 jobs at GM are in China or outside of this country. The union, that actually caused the fiscal problem at GM, is now in charge with the US Government (Socialism) hold stock and risk. They are coming due for another bailout soon because THEY ARE LOSING MONEY!
Under Obama 5 million jobs lost. Their numbers show 4 million plus added. That equates to a NEGATIVE number. Also, the jobs added to not equate to the jobs lost. Higher paying jobs gone, "you want fries with that" to replace them.
The don't count the people that have exhausted their unemployment benefits or are no longer looking. That is called FUZZY MATH.

Bottom Line, Obama is a failure PERIOD!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/04/mitt-romney-inaccuracies-_n_1939337.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

Nancy: I hate to burst your fantasy balloon, but Huffpost has zero credibility. Biased, leftist garbage.

Jamie,
Thank you for your views based upon lots of facts... I also feel the way you do... Let's just pray that the American people wake up to smell the coffee...

The first dicredited comment in your list was widely disseminated by Sarah Palin, so we immediately know that isn't accurate...but fact-checking confirmed that.

Just to confirm, Jamie, as you are giving permission below for other posters to use your...story, you are claiming to be the original author?

Are you serious? You like the idea of giving billions to private corporations that already bilk us at the pumps? You like giving billions to paper pushers and ceo's of insurance companies when they can be cut out of their useless jobs by computers or government we can control what they make? You people are not only two faced hypocrits but your schizophrenic. No offense.

@George. What is wrong with giving lots of welfare to the rich? That is the whole purpose of the far right conservatives. .

Sorry Ric but that dog don't hunt. The rich that you hate pay their fair share. This is another classic Radical comment. ATTACK THE RICH. They are evil and don't pay thier fair share. WHAT??? Of the $1.2 trillion of income taxes paid, 71% of it is paid for by the 10%. Who the heck is paying the fair share is 29% comes from the other 90% for the same exact government services? Should the rich pay more for gas or a burger at Wendys? Do the rich get Free Obama phones?

On the other hand, Medicare spends $500B more a year than it takes in and we borrow the money from CHina to pay for it.

Yep $90 B annually vs $2.5B. I wonder if any of the $90B in green subsidies went to anyone RICH like AL GORE?

Why do LIBERALS hate the Military and men and women who serve?

I mean after all, Obama goes around bowing to foreign leaders apologizing for America.

We had our people attacked and murdered in Libya and Obama and his Admin claimed is was because of a stupid video and spontaneous. Hillary CLinton ignored the warnings. She should be brought up on treason. She allowed Americans to get killed by RADICAL MUSLIMS who HATE US!!!!

When you get pass the rhetoric. . .Romney isn't speaking for the middle class. For instance: tax professionals will tell you that if you eliminate mortgage deductions..it will hurt the middle class much-much more than the rich. Meanwhile the rich will save a lot more money by Romney's reduced tax rates on their AGI

Alinsky,
I don't understand why Liberals hate our military either... if it weren't for our military we would not be here able to enjoy all our freedom and liberty...I think that all the liberals should go across lines to see what it is like to defend our country and its rights... I'll bet they learn to appreciate our armed forces alot more...

He probably was wondering why he should even had to have shown up to this debate. If you people want to follow the privatization of your government and nation, as if they and you all haven't been destroying each other's lives for love of money to date, then he can't stop us from being vainly and blindly led down a dead end road. But you'll all wake up when it's too late. It probably is too late already. Keep watching fox and it's all day propaganda loop mein kamf is almost over. spell check and history check it too.

janey, See above comments from Jamie Lyons.

George, It's not about privatization of government, it's about nationalization of our economy and our private lives. That is why Obama must go before he nationalizes everything. He started out with the auto industry, moved on to health care and has issued executive order after executive order imposing his will on businesses large and small. If that's what you want, continue supporting Obama. If you believe in individual freedom and liberty, there is no choice but Romney.

you should have read a history book or watched history channel or even a "good" old book, Anyone of them would have let you all know how this mess is gonna end. You played the crooked game and lost. Just like the rest of us. Maybe exxon could take the 4billion we give them and get you a bag of dope and uniform to start pumping. This world is a bag of dopes. Some are really smart tho, Smart enough to trick us into letting them run it into hell.

Not sure how I played the crooked game and lost.. I am still proud enough to say I am still on top. After serving my country in the USMC, serving two tours in Iraq, I went to college, got a degree, and now make a 6 figure salary. America was forced to watch the only two men that the media wants to show. Where was Gary Johnson or Jill Stein?

Who is Gary Johnson? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXab-nPucwA&feature=colike

Excluded from debates: http://newmexico.watchdog.org/16307/two-sponsors-pull-out-of-presidential-debates-in-protest-over-gary-johnsons-exclusion/

Dennis, thanks for service. Apparently you are doing just fine. You got all the cheese you could ever want, nah never enough cheese. But what of the ship we rats are on as we race and fight each other for as much cheese for ourselves? How's your ship doing? Obamas or democrats fault? Or were we all too busy worrying about our "fair" share to worry about the ship? you've won alright and are on top of the bow of the titanic and there is no where left to run or hide. Maybe we should take some of our cheese and plug some holes below water line.

Praying!!

Yep, home to the White House.

you seem to be missing something. Like a true perspective on the big picture. Are you all being paid to look away from the truth? Big oil and our foolish childless dependence on it is destroying our world's enviroment from air to water from sea to polluted sea. Can't you see that? Global warming isn't a money making myth. Why you all want to stay dependent on a few that control the global oil supply when Brazil among many others is liberating themselves from it is beyond me and I find it scary as hell that you all do. Yeah, Obama sees it and wants us to too. So put on your totoos and dance to a better truer tune. Oil and those the killed their way into monopolizing oops it, Saudi kings to Texas kings and all in between have been running this world but we can't see that. Money is power and we've given them both away. Wall street/banks has a big hand in cohoots too. Do you think people smart enough to have slaves build pyramids for their after life get aways would be dumb enough to let their slaves go? No, they just gave them the illusion of freedom. We've been living under that same illusion since then. enjoy.

George government has created dependence. Government has promised to fix our cities and instead they have destroyed them. Government has ruined California due to overspending. The entitlements and pensions and other lavish taxpayer funded handouts ARE THE PROBLEM. Like them or hate them, big oil and the refineries and the gas stations all provide jobs and services and pay other taxes to help their states and local economies. What is your solution except complaining? Is the country with $1.3 T of budget deficits on top of $16 T of debt BROKE or not? How long can we borrow money from China? We are borrowing money to repay borrowed money.

Medicare is deficit funded by $500 B a year. Over 10 more years, that's another $5 T in new debt. We cannot give away services that we cannot pay for.

Please tell us your solutions instead of your grandstanding

For every gallon of gas sold, Big Oil makes approximately 7 cents per/gallon. The government tax (added together) is approximately 70 cent per/gallon. Who is actually making the money here?

@George. Obama does nothing but lie. He is liar and pretender and his goal is to redistribute wealth. he said so in his closing remarks yet again. The Christian comments are again right out of the Rules for Radicals playbook. Rule#3. We all know Liberals hate Christianity and try to paint all Christians as crazy "RIGHT WING RADICALS" The words are chosen on purpose. INFLAME. We will not tolerate your personal attacks. Why do we never hear liberals attack "LEFT WING RADICAL MUSLIMS" but then again you already know the answer to that.

Let's talk about Obama's failures on jobs and debt instead.

OBAMA's CLOSING COMMENT

"All those things are designed to make sure that the American people, their genius, their grit, their determination, is -- is channeled and -- and they have an opportunity to succeed. And everybody's getting a fair shot. And everybody's getting a fair share,"

You sad man. Let Jesus into your heart and allow the venomous evil to exit your soul.

Keep telling yourself that George. If Romney was lying, then Obama wouldn't have gotten scared and defensive...but whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

alinsky, you and your minions seem to have a problem with those unworthy below you getting their "fair share". In your eyes, them having a share seems unfair. It that how you all see it? If you look at history, those in power and making the big bucks do it by bribing their fellow killers, yes killers and thugs won history, So your nice guys have finished last or been bought and paid into becoming unnice greedy men doing the dirtiest work for their evil kings. Look it up. Yes, we've road the coat tales of the great men out to make a name for themselves and the money to take over as much of our free world as they can. I thank them for all their hard work, mega egos we've bowed to, and for the global hell that's coming because we bowed to them instead of a higher power.

That is one of the most delusional statements that I have ever read. You think NoBama felt sorry for Romney? You really believe that BS you typed? Put head back in sand!

You are so right Alinsky... what happened to our American dream.

I thought Romney looked rather frantic.

Kathy, are you laughing writing that? Romney is an out sourcer and if you make him chief that's just what he'll do. you people don't get it. People like romney that claim to go to church and then do exactly the opposite of what their messiah told them are taking us all to hell because we do the same thing following their lead. they don't care about people because profits come first from oil to healthcare to manufacturing. if they can pick a penny off their dead mothers eye, they'd do it. That is what all we people have become. Grave robbers, a den of thieves. A whorish and adulterous generations that has come to it's inevitable sad and destructive end. I say "it's the end of the world as we know it.. and I feel fine."

George, you are like the Chris Matthews of The Patch. Pathetic with your MSNBC talking points. Place head back in sand!

George you have about as much clue about our economy and how the business world works as and Electrician has a clue how to do open heart surgery !! LOL George apparently your not drinking either cool aid...but some other strange concoction that has you talking in strange sentences...I think its time for you to return to the playground for recess...just sayin

President Obama did not shut down NASA, but has increased their funding. Attempts to shut down or marginalize NASA came from previous administrations. The space shuttle program has been retired.

Did you miss the recent Mars exploration program - Rover Mission?

In 2004 the Bush administration ordered the closure of NASA in 2010. it was extended to 2011. Please check your facts Kathy.

Yeah, you could do that, or you could kiss Obama goodbye (where you usually kiss him will be fine) he is toast.

Obama supporters are really squirming right now...just because your man can't speak without a teleprompter doesn't mean we should suddenly change the way a debate is held. Body language and eye contact (or lack thereof ) tell a LOT. This is the format that debates adhere to ALWAYS, whether presidential or not. Just take the loss like a man.

Yea....OK Mark really?
Seriously you cannot be that ignorant....I just dont believe it. The problem Obama has now is his record cannot be defended period. The best part of the Debate that resonates with many Americans is when he said that he does not understand that in a time when the economy was so bad (when Obama got elected) why would you make Health care the main focus rather than help create more jobs first and fix the economy FIRST???? Man that was paramount and he could not answer it. And as our President I expect some response..he had none...He was sad and it finally has been exposed.

To all of you, especially Letsgetreal...

I wasn't making this into a pro-Romney/anti-Obama argument. But, no doubt, I can count on people to do just that.

All I said was that, without the facts immediately at hand, the debate is all about image and how one candidate came across versus the other. People on both sides of whatever the debate happens to be, not just the debate we witnessed last night, will slant the argument and skew so-called "facts and figures" to make their argument look good and the other side's not. Liars figure and figures lie and that's that.

And, now, for the three of you who responded to me, you all make me sick.

This country is so damned polarized already, starting with Mitch McConnell who said, nearly four years ago--hell with a partisan Florida Secretary of State and partisan Supreme Court twelve years ago--that his goal was to make Obama a one-term President. In other words, he had no intention of working with the President for the common good. And, people on both sides, regular citizens, carried the torch of "Us vs. Them." To many, there's nothing that Obama can do right and nothing that Romney can do wrong. And vice versa, of course.

So, to all of you who replied to me, shove it. You have your agenda and nothing will get in the way. Damn ideologues. You make me sick. So nice, I said it twice.

I guess you didn't bother watching Morning Joe on MSNBC. No spin and extremely fair. Chris Matthews also from MSNBC slapped Obama every which way and up. That 's the difference between MSNBC and Faux News. MSNBC is not afraid to tell it like it is but Faux News and Rush are always trying to make things up from thin air.

Liberals really ought to take a good look at Camden, Trenton and Newark where their petri dishes of government are totally under their control. How those places doing? Ever drive thru there with your doors unlocked? Like Jesus said, give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life.

Joey Bags,

Camden, Trenton and Newark were shitholes under Republicans as well as Democrats. And we've had Republican governors for eleven of the past fifteen years.

It's not the government; it's the people who live in those places. There are a lot of poor, one-parent families with the mindset that the government owes them a handout. For any number of reasons, they don't pride themselves on education and, in areas with "projects" you have many living in a small area--many who think they have no future, and it becomes a breeding ground for drugs and gangs.

But we both knew that already.

Teach a man to fish and he eats for the rest of his life? True. Teach a man to fish who thinks he has no future and he'll keep sitting there waiting for someone to hand him a fish. You'd have a better chance teaching a bear to crap in a toilet than teaching some of those folks to fish.

Debbie its called flop sweat. And as far as edge goes...Romney had positive and logical thoughts which he laid out if you listened. As Biden said, the middle class has been buried the last 4 years. Time for Reagan 2.0.

Nice to end the regular season beating the daylights out of Boston. If there is a God, Bobby V. has managed his last game in the majors, His players despise him, his coaches hate him and the fans deplore him. Other than that, he is a beloved member of the baseball fraternity.

Jenn,Obama used body language,4 years ago he told us everything we wanted to hear,I know you listened,trouble is you haven't woken up,you still believe the Lies he told 4 years ago. Mr. Romney is right as far as the 47% only I don't think the number is over 40%,most of the people voting for Obama are getting assistance from the Government in some way shape or form,myself included,only I made the mistake of believing his Lies 4 years ago,but I woke up,Jenn,you should to,my SSDI was supposed to be over $1600.00 a month,Obama took office and it got reduced to $1200.00 a month,because his people felt I didn't deserve he first amount,I was told it was a mistake.Bullshit!! Obama's History and he started putting the nails in his coffin last night.

Doris, please explain how R/R will DEVASTATE the middle class and seniors (financially).

Ridiculous post Doris. Obama (clear cut socialist who hasnty a clue how to run this country) and Biden (the most idiotic fool of a man) have ruined this country. $3.80/gallon gas; 4 years of 8% unemployment; Ambassadors being killed in embassy locations (on 9/11 and after US govt being warned of attack); the list is endless but the reality is the financial reality of paying for gas to go to the market and realizing how much it costs today.

re NJ property taxes: I have no problem with my municipal taxes, but the school taxes are killing me.

Everytime I ask out-of-state family with low taxes how they fund their schools...they don't know and don't care.

No they won't, Jose. They'll try to tell us that 95% will vote for Obama while telling us we are all "closet klansmen" if we don't follow them in lockstep, or should I say "Goose Step"...

Like I said, read this "article"...http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/03/cnn-poll-romney-wins-debate-by-big-margin/

What's with this class warfare crap anyway? What do you call our system if not class warfare? you don't think the upper class or ruling class, which it truly is aka, no democracy, are working together shipping jobs to lower and lower classes globally, what the hell is it then? Free market? lol. you people are silly petty creatures that can't see the future because you keep forgetting the past on our present path we've never exodus from. dah... were are all the true jews that see we are still in the land of pharoah? Where are the christian's and muslims that don't see this? Egypt's spring has been aimed at us because we don't want to see it's coming here too so they want us to kill each other and then they'll enslave you all again working for the chosen few. whomever they are when the few "smartest" survivors go back to this corrupt game. God's gonna close the good books upon us all. case closed. man's not worth saving if he won't change. the end.

HA! It would almost be humorous if it wasn't going to have such a real impact on our country!

dea granatthebeach.... I agree totally... it's laughable isn't it. Here we are having to do what the Government tells us to do ... and why?

Interesting meme/political humor. I found it credited to Maxine, Trump, and Dr. Barbara Bellar.

Dr. Bellar was a nun, but is now a Chicago Republican politician. Many Patch posters have told us about Chicago politicians, so...

I'm with ya Jay, supporting a guy like Gary Johnson or Ron Paul does not make you a liberal. In an ideal America, someone like that would be our President. I support most of their views and I really wish one of them could win this election. On one hand, I want to vote for Johnson in November because I believe that if enough people start voting Libertarian they will start to be even more widely recognized and it could make a real impact on future elections. On the other hand, my number one priority right now is saving America from the destruction that another term of Obama would surely cause. Tough decision. In the short-term though, it is vital to this nation that we end this presidency

"Duopoly" - "LIKE"....I am so stealing that. Much shorter to type than my usual "Two-Horse race where the same stables owns both horses"

Why do you insist on blending lumping religion and politics together? You sound ridiculous and your generalizations are insulting. Anyone who truly believes in heaven and hell should know better than to judge others, especially when you truly do not know a thing about them.

judge not can be interpreted may ways my silly friend. We judge others daily from sin to worth. A day labor most likely meant it as judging a man's worth, but that's too socialistic for you cannibals to except. The republicans claim Christianity as theirs? Then I'll refresh their memory and make them choke on their messiah's words as they should for leading his flock astray. Woe unto you my friend. you ask you I am to speak for my religion or Messiah, don't call yourself anything christian, jew, Muslim, if you remain quiet as the lord's words are twisted and out right denied as your and you political liars distort and abuse it for money's sake.

Wow, not sure what to say to you...i wish you all the best, god bless you

you could speak the truth mrvrnj whatever.. and tell me I'm absolutely right. The reps, with their war machine ,which they make a killing in money on the death of others while we all have to pay for it in more ways then one, carrying on some "judao christian holy" war in God's and countries name? I'm just as big a hypocrit, but I'd rather face the rather of judgement from any and all then sit and watch them hijack my religion. They are and can go to hell but don't try to have Jesus or his so called followers lead the way. You'll see, History, or what's left of it, will prove me right by these same types will erase and rewrite your history as they always have. dah. you get nothing sir, good day.to you! lol God bless.u2

I appreciate a good Willy Wonka quote, well done sir!

He's got plenty of time to host $40,000 plate fundraiser dinners and party with Jay-Z and Beyonce though. This guy is a joke as a President. He has always been all talk and it is finally catching up with him now.

Excellent post Attack, I have seen many others with similar sentiments. Trust me your not racist, just intelligent logical American.

you deserve to fail if you can't keep up. big biz doesn't seem to have a problem with walmarts, mcdonalds, exxon, etc... you can't outsource like then and now blame it on obama. lol. gotta keep up. import your own mexican slaves silly goose. survival of the fittest and romney and his gang crushed you the competition. sorry, but that's life. sour grapes sounds like to me.

George what products does Apple manufacture in the US? How much did they profit last year? Why no complaints?

Dear attack of the baseball cards.... nicely said.. I am a small business owner also and ditto to everything you said... all this idealogy of the past 4 years has not worked and now I want a successful business man in office to run the U.S. because Obama who has not run anything except his mouth... is not doing anything for any of us!!!

You guys are sounding so desperate right now. You do realize that this will go down in history as one of the most absolutely abysmal debate performances by an incumbent, right? But I'm sure it was just part of his strategy, everything is going as planned.

Bottom three of all time, after Lloyd Bentsen's annihilation of Dan Quayle, and Runyan's "Dred Scott" gaffe with Adler.

Thank God for Hannity. Obama and his dictatorship is gone very soon. Remember Libya and our four americans that were sitting ducks at the american embassy without security and Obama and Hillary knew that there were threats before 9/11/2012 that this was going to happen with riots from the terrorists and they did nothing. You can push the button for Obama and as you do that you have approved of his bowing down to our enemies, on the view and campaigning while our american embassy burned and four americans slaughtered, vacations after vacations. Obama's wife is the biggest spender of all time and she took her family and friends on a vacation signed and delivered to us the american citizen to pay for it. Go right ahead and vote for Obama. I hope you can sleep at night.

Oh crazy world... you are crazy... Red bull... how about he knows what he is talking about and tells the truth.... Romney is a sucessful business man and a good family man.... it's al good for America! We need to forget the last 4 years of constant disappointment... It's not about republican or democrat.... it's about being American... maybe you should start acting like one...

Obama doesn't lie, what????? What four years of nothing but empty everything, promises, Obama doesn't lie?????????????????? Yikes and you are allowed to vote???.

i wonder if canada is excepting citizens? I think we should listen to our wiser and older "mother" countries as they've been around a helluva lot longer then we have. O yes, our youthful energy, greed and violence has taken us far fast but now our youth is catching up to us. You're gonna beg to move to a third world country when this course we are on plays itself out.

His experience as a community organizer was on display. Hillary, Bill, Biden they all knew he wasn't ready in 2008 and not in 2012

Obama looked very strange that night at the debate. His eyes looked like a deer that was caught in car headlights, he looked very ill. I thought he looked like he was going to vomit, cry or his nerves got the best of him because he has nothing to run on. They say Obama wasn't prepared. Prepared for what? He is our president and doesn't need to be prepared he should know his stuff, but, he hasn't been anything but a bottomfeeder off our money. Spending like he has an addition. Obama said if he didn't do what he said he was going to do in the four years after he was elected in 2008, in his own words he wasn't entitled to another four years, take his word on it, he is no president material He failed miserably.

Romney is a class act, and knew his stuff and he will be our next president

No he didn't. He was a US Senator and voted for all of the spending along with the rest who actually approved a budget way back when. Even if it were true, he just sits there and accepts it while we go broke and our credit rating gets downgraded. That is not leadership. That is surrender.

tonto....Obama has spent more money than all presidents grouped together. What is your excuse for that? Where is the money and have you felt any relief because of it. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, nope

I agree Nancy... what happened to the truth of life... we lost lives to Obama"s reign and nothing is said... it is so sad for the families and all of us.

As politics makes you ill, you should stay away from it.

How do you think the families of those who died in Libya feel when they see comments like yours using the deaths of their husbanda, brothers, and sons for political gain?

"Lazy" and "basketball" are racist terms now? Can we keep deflecting from the fact that Obama has been strangling the economy and dividing country his entire term?

jenn, sorry that you're feeling bad for being a closet racist, but unfortunately neither "lazy" nor "basketball" are racist terms.

you probably don't like the term "food stamp president" either, but yes, Obama is a lazy food stamp president who is more concerned with his basketball brackets than attending his daily security briefings which may have directly led to the needless slaughter of a US Ambassador (first time since Jimmy Carter, BTW)

Shame on you jenn, for voting for an unvetted lazy person because you feel guilty about race

Jenn: Mark me down as one of your "suckers" because I don't earn anywhere near that but care about the future of this country. What does my personal economic status have to do with anything when so much more is on the line here? I consider it to be an honor to be classified as a "sucker" by you. And when did the word "basketball" become racist? Shame on me.

Jenn I am middle class and I am voting for Romney all the way...am I a sucker? Or would I prefer America not crumble over the next 4 years? I don't buy into the liberal agenda that people like you and the mainstream media have been trying to push. I have done all my own research and I make decisions based on fact, rather than just listening to what I am told. The only way to avoid a total disaster for this country is to get Obama out of office. God help us all if he wins.

Jenn,
Romney is not an extreme right wing guy... he's an American who has a success story like all that is available to all Americans.... what if his sucess happened to you! How would you feel then... start being the creative innovative American that you are priveleged to be... thank the good Lord and all of our military also that you live here.

George..... I agree you need help... entrepreneurs are welcome and needed in our society ... without them we are no longer America as we know it.

Guilty about inheriting or marrying money? Become a Princeton DemoLib and force the redistribution of hard-earned income from working/middle-classes to be spent on the government initiatives de jour.
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Problem in the world or your community? Fix it with a new commission, government agency or law . . . that's the trick. If it doesn't work at first, spend more money and pass another law. Government is the solution, right?
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Freedom, incentives and rewards not necessary in a perfect utopian state run by the self-chosen best & brightest.

He was right! Fact-checkers proved Mitt lied and flip-flopped like never before, during the debate. Voters won't be fooled by "style" over "substance." Mitt is still way behind.

OMG. I have to clean my hard drive now after that filth.

@Jenn...sorry, but the nastiest and most divisive words have come from the President himself. Contrary to the promises he made to get the job. You might want to back off the cheap race comments too, they are unfounded and no help to anyone.

That's racism cloaked in subterfuge. Regan(the welfare Queen) learned that from Nixon..on how to inject racism to motivate white voters( Nixon's Silent Majority)

The wealthy do all the work? You mean like Donald Trump, who inherited $400 million? Or Willard Romney, who inherited money and connections from his father? Or George W. Bush, who drilled a bunch of dry holes on his father's friends' money? Tell the aides at the assisted living residence where my mother is who get ten bucks an hour to bathe and toilet and serve meals to these infirm elderly people that they don't work hard. Tell people like me, who work 80 hours a week in a professional-technical job but are not wealthy that we don't work hard. Your comment is disgusting and un-American.

George Clark: Get back to work, slave.

Come on jenny baby - if mitt or schwartzman werent investing millions to make these companies work welfare queens like you would have no government handouts to live off of.

Jenn, Bain was a no risk endeavor? See, that's why no one takes you seriously. Because you a just COMPLETELY FALSE on that. What a preposterous statement.

you can be as smart as you want, but if you are going the wrong way what good will it do you? hitler was a smart person too, by that standard. Was hitler rich or just powerful? Saudi kings are rich. Wanna go live there? I am riding a pale horse and hell does follow me. Another threat to shut up and obey in our so called democracy? Spoken like a true slave pharoah's slave, gloria.

I think she's referring to the people killed in Iraq(2003-06), which estimates vary from over 100K to over 1M.

ah, computer are now way smarter then us. So get off the smart kick. I don't want to be filthy rich if it means great harm to others through wars and class warfare at such levels to actually put the entire planet and species at risk. If money makes the rich so happy, why do they need so much more? Money was supposed to be a judgement of how much one contributes to his or her society. Now it is just a measure of how much one can take from his or her society whether it was earned or stolen. Now it seems bad works pay the most. And we are gonna reap what we've let them sow. Judgement day comes soon so go and build the riches' bunkers but it will do none of you any good. Greed is gluttony and it's a mortal sin. Might as well be junkies to something if not drugs. I suppose.

only 5 million? and he bankrupted how many casinos? What. He is a hard working self starter now, isn't he? lol. please. Silly silly people. All the silly people, where do they all come from?

Mr. Trump has declared bankruptcy at least four times. He became wealthy off the work of the people/companies he didn't pay.

Jenn: Is that you Mooch-elle? Soon, you will be back in Chicago where you belong. And stay away from those Snickers!

Good 'ol Jenn, showing her ignorance again, stating the wealthy don't really have to work very hard.

Just like Obama said: "It isn't because you worked hard or because you're so smart" and :You didn't build that!"

I guess they just got lazy because FDR and Elizabeth Warren's Cherokee ancestors built roads and bridges

Tonto, no one takes you seriously when you spit out MSNBC propaganda. There is no 5T tax cut. Obama doesn't even know what he's talking about. He (Obama) is the one lying about the 5T tax cut. And you prove your incompetence by repeating the lie.

Another piece rolls off of BS mountain, claiming Obama's a muslim ( as if it mattered ), and denying evolution.

Try to break loose of your Truth Free Spin Zone, Big Lou.

Romney is not giving a 5 trillion dollar tax cut.. stop with the Dem lie talking points. You might have the 5 trillion in your head because that is the amount Obama has added to the deficit in 4 years

@Pig Lou. Before you spout off again, stop appearing stupid and learn how to learn how to spell democrat. Thank god no one is spelling repubicans or variations like that. You do know people think big guys are stupid as it is. Then you cannot spell.

And lay off the booze. There is no way, except in your drunken fantasies, you can do anything to Tonto. You are bright enough to realize that, right?

3) OR THE TAX BASE BECOMES LARGER SO MORE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TAXES SO THERE'S MORE REVENUE COMING IN SO THE DEFICITS AND THE DEBT GO DOWN.

Gosh is it THAT HARD TO COMPREHEND???

Rich, liar … hmmm … poll the US on word association: ( survey says ? ? )

Mitt Romney

@Pig Lou. What is a "Ina bank"? Banks in Rome, perhaps?

...the ones that will benefit from a race war is the Republicans. They have to get 64% of the white vote according to pollsters.

Yonatan: Soon we will be saying goodbye to you when America finally comes to its senses and defeats Obama on November 6.

Obama had full control of the govt his first two years. WH, House, Senate. Two priors years dems controlled House & Senate also under Bush. GOP declared war against his destructive policies and vowed to stop him just as those they represent wanted them to do. The tidal wave that took back the House in the 2010 election demanded the SPENDING STOP. We're heading over the fiscal cliff. If he's reelected you'll be affected as everyone will be. What anti-American activity do you refer too? Obama IS the problem.

Jonathan (genius): Obama had both houses of Congress for 2 years. They used every trick in the book to get Obamacare passed.

He got all the progress he wanted and we got a joke of a healthcare bill, 2 jokoes of stimuli and all the money went to his union and green energy friends.

I guess you're for more of that, huh?

Hoax-not true. Obama(Democrats) got control of US Senate for a short time after Al Franken was sworn in(July 2009), giving them control of filibuster, until Scott Brown replaced Kennedy in Jan 2010.

Spooner: Are you saying that a clown like Al Franken determines the fate of our nation. God help us!

Great Hoax: Thank you. Obama is the Emperor of Ice Cream. Perfect! Furthermore, the Emperor wears no clothes.

Odd, when I read this I thought that Mr. Romney was the one offering the ice cream...

Yonatan; Would you like me to show you the door? Happily.

while Nero Obama fiddles, we all die....

Thanks, Jenn. We are also doing fine. In fact, to answer the famous question, we are doing better than we were four years ago.

Stinki- I don't know about Romney winning just yet. Race is going to be close at this point in time. . .

HJS, the two armored buses were purchsed from Hemphill Brothers Coach Company of Tennessee. The shells were designed in Canada.

Here is some interesting trivia: "...There are, however, a couple of things you should know about the bus: It's not just for Obama. And there's another luxury coach just like it, for use by the Republican nominee in the 2012 presidential race."

And "... former President George W. Bush campaigned aboard a bus made partly by the same Quebec firm during his 2004 "Yes, America Can" tour across the country..."
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/ss/How-Much-Obamas-Bus-Cost.htm

I loved it when Ms. Palin's bus would travel to a spot near her appearances, she would fly in, be taken to the bus, and then act as though she had always been on the bus.

HJS- NJ Transit has been buying/leasing MCI buses for a long. The shells are made in Canada from what I'm told.

Lack of regulation of Wall St., speculators, banksters, etc. -- thanks to Bush. And still now Romney-Ryan oppose reining in their elite millionaire 1% pals!

I think you could put the blame on former Goldman Sachs Chairman Bob Rubin and former Texas Senator Phil Graham for a lot of what happened? Democrats didn't recapture House until Jan 07?

Hey Tonto,I don't know about you,but when I vote I hand them my I.D. with a picture to prove its me,Now if you have a problem with having a Photo I.D.maybe you shouldn't vote,Because you obviously don't have the proper level of intelligence

Not in Chicago,their motto is vote early,vote often

Tonto, prove your statistic. Where did you get that info about 39%?

All of your comments here are taken at face value: Those of a raving lunatic. Have a great day!

Oh you mean like the Secret wars Obama has us in,Hey Tonto,did you serve in the military?

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/taxes-going-pay-pay-obamacare-145413745.html

5.3 million Seniors will continue to save $600/yr on prescription drugs, From: WH.gov/healthreform: If you need proof about Obamacare Also Obamacare: Lets millions of young adults stay on parents insurance until age 26, Ends insurance company power to cap the amount of care a person can receive in their lifetime, Stops insurance companies from Canceling Coverage when someone Gets Sick, Lowers the cost of care for those on Medicare, Requires insurance companies to cover preventative services like monograms free of charge, Stops insurance companies from denying coverage to Children with Pre-Existing Conditions, Gives Tax Credits to Small Business Owners so they can Afford to offer Quality health care for Employees, Gives hard-working Americans Tax Credits so they can afford insurance beginning in 2014, Ends Discrimination Against Adults with Pre-Existing Conditions Beginning in 2014, Creates State-Based Marketplaces Where People Can Easily Compare & Shop for Insurance Beginning in 2014.
SEE WH.GOV/HEATHREFORM for more information.

Tonto Medicare spending exceeds revenues by $800 BILLION A year which adds to the Deficit on OBAMA...how are we paying for this UNPAID benefit? Borrowing from CHINA, that's how. You down with that?

John-as I recall...your not doing too bad a job yourself, promoting racism with your welfare cries? And Romney needs 64% of the white vote to counter blacks, Hispanics, and woman. . .Remember Regan's "welfare Queen", Bush 41's "Willy Horton", and Nixon's "Silent Majority" . . .all with racism underneath! Gotta get those whites angry and mad to go out and vote against the black man...no subterfuge there!

...and yeah that was Princeton president Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat who probably won thanks to Teddy throwing his hat in the ring, who gave us the income tax and I believe the Federal Reserve. . .The rest of that gobbledygook is old news. . .get some fresh material. . .

Rock and roll, MoonSusan. I simply don't understand why people like Tonto put fraudulent information here. I just posted the Human Event/Columbus Disopatch story that 1 in 5 registered voters in Ohio is fraudulent.

Amazing!

Please stick with unbiased news! Not republican or democratic, please. I tried to google the claim that 1 in 5 registered voters are fraudulent according to the Columbus Dispatch but found only the link you posted. Where has the other media such as Fox News been reporting about this???Now this one also quotes something from the Columbus Dispatch, let's try this. http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12814048-ohio-republican-admits-voter-suppression-aimed-at-african-americans

Tonto, do you have anything of substance to discuss? Wouldn't you want to tout your man's record instead of these silly party aimed attacks?

Just remember, Tonto = moron in Spanish, as in "Ese hombre es muy tonto." That man is much the moron.

Not ridiculous but Reality:"A recent study by the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice found just seven cases of voter fraud out of three million votes cast in Wisconsin during the 2004 election, a fraud rate of 0.0002 percent. All seven of these cases involved persons with felony convictions who weren’t eligible to vote after being released from prison." Repeat you're 39 times more likely to struck by lightning then to encounter voter fraud.
It's an issue that Desperate Republicans need to distract & dwell on Because Their Policies Are So Weak & Unappealing & Unpopular.

"Since 2000, only 10 cases of in-person voter fraud have been proven nationally." Does factchecking count? Because I heard Republicans won't let factcheckers dictate their campaign. http://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2012/sep/19/naacp/-person-voter-fraud-very-rare-phenomenon/

...this is how Republicans were operating their "voter fraud sting operation" until they got caught...

http://wallstreetonparade.com/

John-'Tonto' responded to you: quoting the "Brennan Center for Justice" Take some time and reread...

...they found just seven cases of voter fraud out of three million votes cast in Wisconsin during the 2004 election, a fraud rate of 0.0002 percent. All seven of these cases involved persons with felony convictions who weren’t eligible to vote after being released from prison...

Did anyone have a kid take the SAT recently? They required photo ID to get in. Just sayin.....

Spooner - Any possibility that in a local election voter fraud to the tune of a few votes can sway the outcome? Whether it occurs on a massive scale or on occasion, ID presentation should be the bare minimum requirement in a citizen exercising the most important activity in a democracy. Again, why were photo IDs required at the Democrat National Convention?

Donna Griffin no trying to understand they must lie each day to cover up their tracks. ID needed everywhere but to vote. Why is that? Try getting pulled over in car without ID right to jail. How them get to voting place if not by car? illegal drivers too?

There we go again...quoting Joe Farah's World Net Daily. . .you simply gotta get some new sources of material?

Have people fraudulently used food stamps? Yes, No? Yes, definitely so ID requirement is a reasonable request. But NO statistical evidence of significant voter fraud exists to justify make people acquire ID's. That's the difference if you care to open Your Mind. In case you need the definition of fraud here it is: Intentional, repeat Intentional Deception.
If Republicans still want ID's after the Presidential election then fine, make it a nationwide requirement & don't let each state, especially those with Republicans now temporarily in charge develop their own set of peculiar & unreasonable ID laws.
Will that happen? Noooooo. Because the Real Republican strategy is to attempt to suppress the vote for THIS election only.

What are you afraid of Tonto? Show some ID already. Too bad. It's a good law and protects everyone. If no one is a fraud nothin to worry about. People who make excuses have somethin to hide. The Democrats know they will be paying for people to vote. That is the reality. Id used for all things so stop your whining and show some. Not that hard.

ID to drive
ID to cash checks
ID to work
ID for foodstamps
ID for students
ID for Passports
ID to fly on a plane
ID to get into Mexico or US if legally doing so
ID to get beer

No ID to vote

DUMB DUMB DUMB

In Florida, Republicans were found in 10 counties to be improperly registering Voters.

The difference between Acorn voter registration problems & the Florida Republican voter registration problems? At least Acorn discovered the problems THEMSELVES & took action within their organization whereas Florida Republicans didn't, outsiders started asking questions about odd looking records and forced Florida Republicans to FIRE their consultant who they knew beforehand had a bad past record in Arizona !!!!

If they had ID laws, it couldn't happen right TONTO??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

...so now we're back on ACRON. . .John...it's Oct 9, 2012. . .you want to go back to the past. How does that compare to "Nathan Sproul... and his Shell companies. Sproul has more LLC's coming out of his hat than Tyco International's subsidaries...

...Since August of last year, Nathan Sproul, the man at the center of the growing voter registration fraud investigations in 11 counties in Florida, as well as other states, has registered at least 10 limited liability companies at the address of 80 E. Rio Salado Parkway, Suite 817, Tempe, Arizona...Sproul also has an office on the same floor of the building in Suite 814. That address has been used for an array of companies tied to Republican operations in states from coast to coast. The companies thus far known are: Sproul Grassroots Mobilization, LLC, Lincoln Strategy Group, LLC, Grassroots Outreach LLC, and Strategic Allied Consulting, the firm at the center of the current storm over forged voter registrations...

John: you can't make this stuff up. . .Republicans caught with their pants down working for Mitt Romney. Look at their signs made on August 21. . .Yet Romney's people claim they shut him off in March? Liar-Liar!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a0wiB3CbgJEJ:www.firstpost.com/topic/person/mitt-romney-aurina-hunt-video-sX1gGkuqS3s-4280-1.html+aurina+hunt+AND+80&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

http://wallstreetonparade.com/

...for the sake of a retort: one story link has to do with Acron in 1999-2000. . .what's that got to do with Obama's campaign in 2008? Then their was the secretly recorded pimp video by James O' Keefe, causing Acron to shutter it's doors in 2010. . .So the Republicans achieved their objective, even though Acron was absolved of any wrong doing. . .Well at least your moving on with new material, but all this is old news?

Liberal BULLIES!!!

How many times does Romney ever mention Bush????

Nada, Never & Wonder Why..........

Did Bush bully that little girl? How many times does Obama mention Reverend Wright or Jimmy Carter? I wonder if Obama will be high on weed again next debate like some of his supporters speculated?

Tonto - On many issues, like spending, Bush was not a good President, and I don't doubt that Romney recognizes it. Now....I wonder why it is that Obama rarely mentions Jimmy Carter. Their policies are nearly identical....and so are their results.

I think we need to help this little girl to her class by all of us showing up wearing Romney/Ryan shirts.

Tonto explain to everyone why Medicare spending exceeds revenue by $800 B a year and that is the biggest problem in the budget? How are we supposed to pay for $16 trillion in debt and $800 Billion a year in Medicare deficits? Raising taxes only creates $100 B a year. What about the rest Tonto? Spend spend spend.....who cares about the future of our children right?

Spooner - Medicare is a bust and unless it is reformed I, in my early 50's, will never see it. You disclaim the Cato Institute's findings which say, "A typical couple retiring last year will, on average, pay $150,000 in Medicare taxes over their lifetime, but receive more than $350,000 in benefits. As a result, the program ran a combined deficit of more than $288 billion last year. Going forward, the most optimistic scenario puts Medicare's future unfunded liabilities at more than $35 trillion. More realistic estimates suggest that the shortfall could actually exceed $90 trillion." Do you dispute the math? Unless we strategize now to save the system later, it simply will not be there. The government is good at certain things, but should not even attempt to tackle healthcare. It is not their role and not their specialty.

Donna- you say medical care not the governments roll...kind of late to the party. It started in 1965? As I said: we the government will address those problems after the election. It would have been addressed sooner, but Speaker Boehner couldn't keep his caucus under control, and has result they killed the president's Medicare and SSI proposals to deal with the long term deficit last year. . .

Spooner - I think "late to the party" is an issue with anyone but Boehner. If Medicare reform was indeed a priority, why didn't the President address it out of the gate when his popularityband numbers in both houses were more beneficial to his agenda? I see little deficit reduction without major entitlement reform. Say what you will about the Ryan plan, at least he has one and is willing to put something on the table as a starting point. What has President Obama offered up? My whole philosophy on the inception of Medicare sees it through a social alteration perspective. A variety of national healthcare was fought for nearly 30 years before it was finally passed in the 60's. Prior to its passage (and related expenses) care for the elderly fell upon families and charities. I'm in no way saying that we have the capacity to return to that time, but it is interesting how legislation reforms culture.

Tonto don't duck the question. How can the government spend $800 B a year on Medicare we don't have. It's UNPAID for!!!

Not true, Tonto. The interview came to an end like most interviews come to an end. Obama walks away from reporters asking questions all the time.

nice try Tonto.

here's the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx6sARZzQEY

Do criminals get gun permits to buy illegal guns to commit illegal acts? Just sayin.......

Swamps, what a great, non personal, very well thought out argument. I didn't even know about the previous resource limit.

This story was first peddled by the right wing website: breitbart.com. . .and speaking of unknown donors, why is it...the left who is only complaining about the 5-4 Citizens United Supreme Court decision allowing donors to remain anonymous. . .why is that 'kemosabe'. . .I guess they don't use credit cards!

Regarding the LifeLine free cell phone program: "TracFone Wireless CEO F.J. Pollak “has donated at least $156,500 to Democratic candidates and committees this cycle, including at least $50,000 to the Obama campaign,” while his wife Abigail has bundled over $632,000 in Obama donations during this campaign cycle. They hosted a $40,000-per-plate fundraiser for Obama in Miami Beach this year, and they’ve made seven White House Visits. Abigail received an appointment to the presidential “Commission to Study the Potential Creation of a National Museum of the American Latino.” Humanevents.com & Tampa Bay Times

Donna- there people with names attached to their donations, contributions fund raising, the blogger points out anonymous donors?

...and who said Pennsylvania wasn't in play!

...sounds like the ad nauseum Obama attacks 'kemosabe'. We've hold heard these one liner Republican talking points. But the the deficit was rolling along through Bush's two unpayed wars and prescription plan. . .then the collapse of the economy that forced the govt to bail out the banks. . .heaven forbid you should mention "stimulus"...according to the right wingers. that's the culprit. . .not Wall Sreet...but there back at what their doing...just ask Jamie Dimon over at JP Morgan, when his bank recently loss $6B in trading derivatives?

Keith, you are SOO RIGHT. How anyone could have voted for Obama who has never done anything but organize and campaign is beyond me.

Hey, let's experiment with the Presidency. What a joke! The good news is the joke is almost over.

Keith - Hillary & Bill, Biden, they all said he was unqualified. The left knew. The right knew. Now everyone knows.

Now how about all of these "coincidences".......

http://capitolhillcoffeehouse.com/index.php/article/1541

Romney just accepted a million dollar contribution from a Foreign Country, an Insurance business from Canada. Just who is he going to represent ???
And thanks again to the Republicans on the Supreme Court for making this type of contribution legal.

...so let me see if I got this right. . .you portend to speak for nearly 70M people who voted for Obama . .Didn't know they all gave you their proxies?

Jeff
Nonsense. We finally heard the truth on Romney from Romney and not through the fear and smear campaign rhetoric of the Obama campaign. What was painfully obvious was that even Obama believed the nonsense rhetoric his advisors had cooked up. Real leadership won over a teleprompter campaign promiser with no depth.

Concerned: just what is the truth about Romney!

Couldn't agree more! I just hope that everybody on this site that wants to elect Romney/Ryan are over 55 (if not, social security as you know it will not exist), doesn't want to claim mortgage interest or child care on your taxes (because under their tax reduction plan they will go away). Don't fact check their claims...Oh that's right, the R/R campaign has stated that fact checkers are not going to run their campaign (wouldn't want to confuse them with the truth). As Ryan said, there are just too many details to give so he doesn't give any at all. Oh and seniors, military, disabled folks? Better get off those entitlement rolls (that you paid into). Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.

Tonto
Nonsense

Is this a repear because earlier today Tonto's lies were already proved.

Hey TONTO - what up with all that crime and voter fraud in Detroit? The police warn people to enter an American City (I think it still counts) and be afraid, be very afraid.....

At least Joe Biden said it right last week and the middle class has been hammered under OBAMA....HAMMERED!!!

I just hope that everybody on this site that wants to elect Romney/Ryan are over 55 (if not, social security as you know it will not exist), doesn't want to claim mortgage interest or child care on your taxes (because under their tax reduction plan they will go away). Don't fact check their claims...Oh that's right, they R/R campaign has stated that factor checkers are not going to run their campaign (wouldn't want to confuse them with the truth). As Ryan said, there are just too many details to give so he doesn't give any at all. Oh and seniors, military, disabled folks? Better get off those entitlement rolls (that you paid into). Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.

...that's true about Ryan...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html

The question to ask. . .is why Alinsky became a political force in this country. You see John would like everyone to ignore poverty and injustices in America. . .like what existed on Chicago's South side. . .Your not going to pull the wool over them John. . .part of American history. . .

Alinsky and Obama pray on people's fears. They promise to help but in the end they just wanted power. Obama hasn't helped anyone in NJ. Obama hasn't helped anyone in Chicago or LA or Detroit. What has Obama done to improve Camden or newark? What has he done to improve NJ failing schools and corruption?

Spooner - I don't know of many reasonable people who would suggest "ignoring" poverty and injustices in America or anywhere else for that matter. What we don't do effectively is get to the root causes of multi-generational welfare dependence. I pose to you that our social service programs do far more to enslave people and dissolve the human desire for personal responsibility. A generation of immigrants made it to this country with little help or expectation of hand outs. American-born citizens offered free housing, free education, free food stamps, free cell phones and free healthcare have continued down the entitlement path to the point we find ourselves now. We continue to feed this ever hungry monster of dependence with little or no expectations that people will eventually fend for themselves. I think the reason we do so is far more diabolical and deliberate...Democrats are harvesting voters among this dependent population. I can think of no humane reason to keep people in poverty. The single best social service program is a job.

Donna- I or we were talking about Saul Alinsky and I guess Frank Marshall Davis. I was in South Chicago in the early 70's. It wasn't a pretty site. In my opinion worst than Newark or East New York in Brooklyn...maybe on par with the South Bronx(Fort Apache movie depicts) Now you can argue all your post Alinsky. . .but it wasn't the case back then? And I don't want to get into comparing African Americans with a generation of immigrants. . .there way two different animals!

PS: "The single best social service program is a job". . .so where's the jobs!

"different animals" watch out that sounds racist.

Good question - where are the jobs? Do tax increases create jobs? Does spending $1.5 trillion a year more than you have create jobs? I'd have to say these 2 things don't help create jobs.

As for Obama and Alinsky. They are tied at the hip.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/294454/still-alinsky-playbook-john-fund?pg=1

Alinsky’s tactics of intimidation are a case in point. His most oft-quoted rule is “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. . . . One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other.”

Obama’s White House has honed that tactic to perfection. In 2009, then– communications director Anita Dunn sneered that Fox News “really is not a news network at this point.” President Obama himself has, in the spirit of Alinsky, gone out of his way to lambaste “fat-cat bankers” and greedy health insurers.

“[The administration has] shown they’ll go after anybody or any organization that they think is standing in their way,” Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell said in a February speech. “You know the drill. Expose these folks to public view, release the liberal thugs on them, and then hope the public pressure or the unwanted attention scares them from supporting similar causes down the road.”

Donna, you are so right about our social service programs enslaving people. These programs have kept many on urban plantations for generations. I my work I've had 3 generations on welfare programs. Grandma "teaching" her children and grandchildren all the in and outs of the programs. The goal being to get a section 8 voucher for housing in addition to all the usual programs. It's all they know. So sad.

kemosabe- yous people go off on tangents...like John Jay's Acorn story about New Orleans in1999, and now it's back to Alinsky(1909-1972) again. . .My calender tells me today is October 9, 2012. . .so again I implore you to answer. . .where are the jobs that are going to solve the poverty problems. . .and don't give me...the $1.5T line...

PS:comparing the 200-300 years of African American history with a "generation of immigrants". . .Please!. . .I could just see the black Professor Melissa Harris Perry(MSNBC) flames coming from her nostrils, ready to explode) So anytime you and Donna want to go there and make the comparisons. . .

Spooner - The jobs are exactly where the elite leftists want them....in government. I never specified that I was speaking about "African Americans" either, but it's interesting that when "poverty" is mentioned your thoughts went in that direction. I, however, do agree that the poverty experienced by incoming immigrants in the 50's and 60's was different than that of Americans who found themselves poor at the same time. Those immigrants did not speak the language so they had an additional cross to bear. Lastly, it is human nature to surround oneself with like-minded people. We do it in our social lives all the time. Obama surrounded himself with interesting "birds of a feather," e.g. Edward Said, Palestinian radical, Roberto Mangabeira Unger, who has called for an alliance among Russia, China, India & Brazil to knock the US down a peg, Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright. I think to disavow himself from these relationships leads me to think Obama views Americans as fools.

John Jay, I agree Obama is weakening America on purpose.

What I meant was the electorate (at least those that voted for Obama) were experimenting with an unknown Community Organizer/Obscure State Senator/US Senator/Savior/President/Tyrant