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At The Jersey Shore, It's Getting Late Early

Darkness reigns where it was once sunny and bright, right where the cars normally line up for entry into the Monmouth and Ocean County beaches

 

At the concrete barricades that seal off Ortley Beach, Bay Head and Seaside Heights from everything else, fully-armed police officers peek through dimly lit cars, looking for any trouble they can find.

The clouds that hover over them never seem to leave, covering what's left of the shining sun, long before it's ever supposed to set. Each officer is bundled in burly black jackets, pointing flashlights in each passing car before turning them away.

Wearing knitted hats that nearly wrap around their eyes and ears, these officers are mere shadows with badges, figurines with no faces that stop people from getting a glance, even a sniff of the beach.

Behind them is the only thing scarier than they are:

The darkness.

In Bay Head, at the foot of the Lovelandtown Bridge, these cops stand guard of the rows of million-dollar homes behind them, the ones still standing, with garbage piled on their front lawns and sidewalks. Missing are the burning flickers of street lights or living room lamps shining through their windows, just as night falls around 5 p.m.

Next door, in Point Beach, where anyone can enter now, piles of sand fill the big beach parking lot, the same one that normally packs the beachgoing cars during the summer, steered by drivers struggling to find a spot within that white-hot asphalt.

In each of these towns, the air smells like sand. The crashing waves get too close to the smashed-up boardwalks in Seaside Heights and Point Beach. There, 12-foot high, recently piled sand mounds are all that's keeping the ocean from roaring up, and ruining things all over again.

Darkness reigns over these towns now, creating a "new normal" that Governor Christie talked about some days ago, and one that we'll likely see for a while.

Darkness descends much like it did in New York City, back in September 2001. Many of us were there that day, or within a day after the attacks, and many times after, when the "pile" lay burning at Ground Zero. We were there when there were signs papering the walls of blacked-out storefronts, each pleading for a clue of the missing.

Then, the constant clouds of ash and smoke often blanketed the sun. Those who worked through the "pile" at Ground Zero lost track of the days of the week.

Now, as the Jersey Shore sorts through the rubble of its homes, just as Manahattan sorted through its ruins then, the people, the victims are asking the same things.

"Is today Sunday?"

No, they're told. It's Monday. Maybe even Tuesday.

I've heard comparisons between then-and-now, how some people are even calling Ortley Beach, and the once plush beachfronts nearby, "Ground Zero." The characterizations may seem unfair, perhaps inappropriate, especially when you compare the death toll between what happened then and now.

But the feelings, and the moods of the people there, are quite familiar. For many, this Hurricane Sandy was another kind of attack, one that didn't kill thousands, but still left too many dead, damaging much more than it killed.

Darkness reigns now, at the Jersey Shore, just as it did in New York then.

"What we have seen is way beyond accessible for people," said Lee Childers, a Normandy Beach land agent who has struggled to gain access to his holdings since much of the barrier island, from Bay Head to Island Beach State Park, has shut down.

For Childers, and from many others, the things you hear now are the same things you heard in New York, back 11 years ago:

This wasn't supposed to happen here.

In Childers's Bay Head office, water rose four feet high. In houses in Mantoloking, Ortley and elsewhere, the water lines wrap around the walls like string, just above the mold that's spreading throughout.

At the foot of the Mantoloking Bridge, a new inlet has nearly formed. Just a sliver of a sand bar is all that's left that keeps the Atlantic Ocean from completely merging into the Barnegat Bay.

Photos show a house still sitting in the bay, half submerged, sitting there as if it won't ever be drawn back in.

Much of Route 35 is what it was a century ago: A dirt road, with trees on either side tilting downward, giving the once busy road the look of what's 30 miles to the south and west: a classy beach resort morphed into the rustic Pine Barrens.

Utility poles are either broken in two, laying on the road or hanging, barely, on their wires.

In places like these, residents are allowed to return for a half-hour, if that. Some, like Bay Head, let them come back for longer. For others, like those in Toms River, the mantra is simple: Grab and go.

When they do it, many of them have to board buses to get there, and watch National Guard scampering around their neighborhoods, where bucolic storefronts now have red "Xs" slapped on their windows. They lose sight of the vision they once had of these places from just three months ago, where cars were lined up as they headed south, and kids rode their bikes, right up in their own line, in the summer.

When they get there, these full-time, part-timers must move quickly, and not just because they're being ordered to. They have to get what they need before it gets anywhere near being dark. Some pockets of neighborhoods don't have any street lights left.

At many places along the Jersey Shore, night falls before the sun sets.

I wrote about these houses once, in a book, "A Legacy of Madness: Recovering My Family From Generations of Mental Illness." My grandfather's family didn't have much money, but what little they could scrape up - or borrow - they paid for places like these.

They used to vacation here, because they were so far removed from the badness that was elsewhere. During the Great Depression, I wrote, Bay Head was a refuge, a place where men wore black jackets and ties, and women wore their fancy dresses, just as the rest of the world wore rags, or whatever was left in the charity pile.

Paintings from that time show men wearing their Sunday best while standing on the glistening sand. Women wore white dresses that gleamed in the sun. Few showed them actually bathing in the water, because they were too busy making small talk, and showing off in the sunshine.

In Bay Head, they pretended as though the Depression didn't exist. The sunny, shining world in front of them was what mattered to them, mostly.

Now the darkened remains of what's left, the ground zero of New Jersey's tourism economy, matters to everybody. The tall task of rebuilding will bring the light back, some say.

The only question left is, when will they see that glimmer of hope?

"There’s so much mystery," said Childers's son, Jeff.

About this column: News and essential information about Hurricane Sandy in New Jersey. Related Topics: Hurricane Sandy

PATRICIA LOCHER

7:26 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

IS BAY HEAD MY HOME TOWN STILL WITHOUT ELECTRIC? I KOW NOTHING OF 59 BODIES

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Karen Reagan

7:37 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Trust me, they had more money than most. Many families didn't even know about the shore and couldn't take time to walk on the beach in their Sunday best because 1 they didn't have and 2 they had to get to their 3rd job to help feed their family. You are a child of privilege and you don't even know it. Be grateful, this will pass.

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Ken G

7:38 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

There ARE Bodies, according to suriviors who were threatned if they told, the government "doesnt want to upset people".

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TastyCakes

8:34 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

If they were threatened if they told, why did they tell you?

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Ken G

8:54 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Because they obviously dont care what the people told them. I've also heard it from FEMA workers. we need to DEMAND they tell the whole truth.

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TastyCakes

9:17 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

If you claim, they obviously don't care what "the people" told them. Who are "the people"? Also, could you tell me why FEMA workers (and you do realize FEMA is a agent of the federal government), is telling such information to a high school student?

Shore Thing

7:41 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Are you kidding me? I live in Brick (on the barrier island) and never heard of that many deaths. Why would they hide it?

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Shore Thing

7:44 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I had neighbors who stayed and said they were in fear of their lives and that they would never ever stay again. Our area was hard hit but not devestated so I would believe that if anyone was staying in the areas hardest hit they could have easily died. I also heard the smell of gas was horrible for days.

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John Hansell

8:25 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I have a house in Normandy Beach and it is as bad as the author paints it. Pieces of cars, homes, telephone poles, and piles of sand occupy what once was our street.

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SoylentGreen

8:29 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I find this a bit insulting that this is even being compared to 9/11. Yeah it sucks that people lost there home, but loss of life was minimal. 9/11 was a terrorist attack where people were intentionally killed, this was a just bad storm. And I hate to say this, but you live on the water, you take the chance this may happen.

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Missing Brick

9:35 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

we take our own chances?

Where I was in Brick the water was 21 feet higher than normal...this is not a usual event. My mother lives inland and has had three floods since the 80s and is no where near the ocean...this is my first time water has been in my house and the house was build 33 years ago. Again, how about some compassion. I hope you are never the victim of a disaster...but if you were you wouldn't be talking like that. (PS- I lived in SoHo during 911, so I am familiar with that disaster too!)

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SoylentGreen

11:26 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I said live near the water, not the ocean. Since you had flooding, you live near a body of water.

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Jay Gee

4:51 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

YOU ARE CORRECT. SO, SO, SO CORRECT. WE HAVE PLACE IN THE HARD HIT AREA OF BARRIER ISLAND, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE DEATHS, DESTRUCTION, CALAMITY, MISERY, AND SADNESS, DEPRESSION FROM WHAT UNFOLDED HERE, IT DOES NOT, I REPEAT, DOES NOT MATCH IN ANYWAY THE HELL EXPERIENCED THAT DAY BY THE ALMOST 3,000 WHO PERISHED, THE FIRST RESPONDERS, DYING OF CANCER, THE LOSS TO THE LOVED ONES FOR HOW THE LOSS WAS INCURRED. THE AUTHOR, EVEN WITH THE ABILITY TO MAKE ME CRY FOR OUR NEW JERSEYANS WHO HAVE LOST SO MUCH, THE POLICE WHO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS DARKNESS EACH NIGHT, NOTHING, NOTHING COMPARES TO 911. GOD HELP THOSE SOULS AND THEIR LOVED ONES. THOSE WHO ARE ILL, AND ANYONE SUFFERING A LOSS IN ANY WAY DUE TO THE TERRORIST ATTACK ON OUR SHORES.
AS FOR OUR NJ SHORES, MAY YOU ALL GIVE AIDE TO EACH OTHER WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PAYMENT. A HIGHER POWER WILL PAY YOU BACK WITH INTEREST SOME DAY. I WISH I COULD HELP, BUT, I TOO, AM IN NORTH JERSEY NOW, WITHOUT A RIDE AND JUST HOPING WE CAN SOMEDAY "BRING BACK THAT SUNNY DAY" TO THE JERSEY SHORE.

Jack Ruby

8:36 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

First of all the death count is accurate. I remember during 9/11 and Katrina there were also conspiracy theories about thousands of hidden deaths. People just love that crap. Do you really think in a day and age where the nations top spy cannot even keep a mistress hidden there are thousands of bodies being hidden? Come on. Take the tinfoil off of your head and throw away that copy of catcher in the rye you have been carrying around for 25 years.

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Jay Gee

4:54 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

JUST LOVE THE "JACK RUBY" MONIKER.......

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KC

7:00 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

Well as I write this Israel and Hamas are in a toe to toe. Let us not be so naive to think this crap 911 - Sandy- decimated infrastructure, non-functional everything..... isn't the new normal. It is. Yet, it all brought out the humanity and goodness of so many.

Ken G

8:57 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

It's ridiculous that the government LIED to the public about the death toll....DEMAND THE TRUTH! FEMA has confirmed it, and suriviors. We all know there's a count and it's ridiculous that a government is trying to hide it. C'mon Mayors, we all know theres bodies.....and some FEMA workers didnt get the dont tell memo. I can bring suriviors to the meetings and they can tell you what they saw. and im sure there's probably photographic evidence somewhere as well.

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Bayratt

9:22 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

OMG.. please grow up. This was a natural disaster, an act of God, not a terrorist attack. There is no reason to hide a body count. If "thousands" of people died, don't you think the families of these people would have said something? It would be in the news. And jersey being jersey where news spreads like a wild fire, everyone would have known someone, who knows someone, etc... who lost someone. This is not the time for conspiracy theories.

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bayboat

10:03 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Some people believe ANYTHING.
Notice all these posts say "I heard" nobody is saying "I saw"
Where are all the families of these supposedly thousands of dead people?

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BN

12:56 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

FEMA is the government.
The government lies and can never be trusted.
Never forget this!

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Paul Anthony

12:06 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

find something more constructive with your life Ken and go help victims that are still alive instead of causing more anger and confusion with your personal nonsense.Not everything in life is a conspiracy.Get a life.

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Paul Anthony

12:13 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

hey everybody just stop posting for this guy and his 2 mins of attention will go away.He def has a lot of time to do nothing dont give him the attention.loser!!!

Jack Ruby

9:07 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Ken you are clearly off your meds. Get your evidence together and email some of these guys. It would make their careers to write the story. If not go back to worrying about UFOs.

Micchael Saul michael.saul@wsj.com
Laura Kusisto at laura.kusisto@wsj.com
Heather Haddon at heather.haddon@wsj.com

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TastyCakes

9:08 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Exactly how many bodies did your survivor friends or your FEMA source claim they saw?

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J

9:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

There is no conspiracy. If any thing we learned from Katrina to be over cautious and in this case it saved lives. There was a feeling in the air before the storm hit that it was going to be bad. Everyone felt it. Saw it in the early storm surge pics on fb before she even came on shore. Most heeded evacuations. Any loss of life is horrible but i think we came through pretty minimal compared to what could of happened.

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Mattie

9:20 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I'm not sure I understand what the motivation for "hiding the body count" would be.... The government DID try to enforce mandatory evacuation- they were not denying the intensity of the storm or pooh-poohing evacuation warnings. They were not in any way making anyone believe this was not going to be one huge a$$-whompin' storm, on the contrary the government was accused of hyping it all up - for whatever reasons- all conspiratory, no doubt. The government even went to all lengths to help get people OUT... knocking on doors, offering transportation, helping the elderly, setting up shelters, etc. This was NOT like Katrina, where people were basically left in their homes, nowhere to go and no way to get there, and then the levy broke. Not the same at all. So please, some one explain to me WHY the local and or state government would be hiding the true body count. They could not really be held accountable for it anyhow, so why hide it??

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Donna Griffin

7:50 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

You're right, Mattie. The difference between Sandy and Katrina was the town/city/state leadership. Our leadership moved quickly and deliberately to get folks out. Our county residents were a bit skeptical because Irene did not hit us as hard as anticipated, but there was a different atmosphere in our towns as a result of the official warnings over this unexpected, late season storm. Make no mistake, the waterfront communities, for the most part, were evacuated resulting in a minimal loss of life. My heart tells me that should there be another storm in our future, EVERYONE will be running toward higher ground. Unlike, New Orleans we did not leave parking lots filled with vacant school buses while the townspeople sat around waiting for the water to rise. We can banter now about how we re-build, but let's all say a prayer of Thanksgiving that darn near everyone made it out alive.

John

9:42 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I rode out the storm in Ortley Beach and while the wind and storm surge were absolutely terrifying, I saw no sign of bodies as I surveyed the area on foot the days following. The reports of gas lines being ruptured is correct, but mostly in the beach block where the homes were moved off their foundations. I highly doubt the loss of life is as high as being speculated as the majority of the residents heeded the storm warnings. Right now we all just need to focus on moving forward and rebuilding as this area is vital to the overall economic well being of our great state of New Jersey.

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walter

4:57 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

I also stayed through the hurricane in Seaside Heights and walked the streets for four days afterwards - saw no corpses anywhere. Sorry.

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Jay Gee

4:59 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

YES, YES, "GREAT STATE OF NJ" YES, YES.

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Paul Anthony

12:10 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

I agree with John.Well put.Lets move ahead like everything else .Tired of people creating more negativity.Need to keep moving foward in a positive manner.

whatever41

10:18 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Please get the facts straight before you spread these terrible rumors and I agree with you John, my heart goes out to all that have gone thru this nightmare. God bless you.

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LJ

10:26 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Tom Davis-Author of Article--Great piece! You did a wonderful job of not only describing the physical situation but also the human condition. Very touching and sincere. Thank you.

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NJerseyMom3

10:27 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

My family lost our home to a fire when I was a young adult. Everything was ruined by the soot or the water from putting out the fire so this has similarities to me. We lost everything, we were homeless and shell shocked, only having the clothes on our backs. In the end, the only thing we looked for were the photographs. No one died, not even our cat, so when others spoke of this "tragedy" we quickly told them it was not a tragedy. Twenty five years later, the only thing I miss, are the photographs. This brings back the emotions I had then, so I am welling up a lot as we rip apart a family house that my father in law built 50 years ago. The only people who suffered a tragedy, are the ones who lost a loved one. This is painful and sad, frustrating and inconvient for many, but not a tragedy. This is a financial ruin for some and is devastating. The ocean is still beautiful, breaking on the sand just like it was before. The sun is still rising and setting with majestic colors. Stuff is just stuff, no one can take away the beauty of nature, or our love for it in our soul. These events show people what they are made of, and what is really important to them. What will you hold on to? Will you cling to the loss of material things, or embrace the challenge of a new start? You are alive and have the choice.

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Donna Griffin

8:22 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

NJerseyMom3 - Thank you. Your words have made my day. Although I can't get across that bridge to see the amazing sea, the understanding that it will be waiting for me when we "get back to normal" helps keep the hope alive.

TRWatch

10:51 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

The nearly 3000 people who lost their lives on 9/11 never had a chance to rebuild a house, replace a car, boat or to hold on to memories of a summer day at the beach. Trying to use 9/11 to describe the emotions felt after Sandy is like comparing apples to oranges, not even close. We have the chance to rebuild, replace and enjoy. The people who died on 9/11 have nothing.

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Bayratt

12:44 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

TR.. you are right on the money. Amen.

Femaascam

11:08 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Just wondering if I filed a claim with FEMA for my car that was flooded but denied because I have a second car, does that mean when my taxes go up&( my car insurance) I can DENY the increase?

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Donna G

7:44 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

If you are a republicon @femaascam and your against big govt please do not file a fema claim please do not cash your SS check and do not file any claims with Medicare thanks

Heather McDonald

11:10 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

Come on people! If there were 1000 people dead we would see flyers all over town looking for the missing like we did in 9/11. In this day and age family members would be pleading on TV about news of their loved ones! The fact is that we got very lucky!! A lot of the home that were severely damaged on the waterfront belong to summer folk! That fact alone saved more lives than I can count! Many others followed the evacuation notice and the ones that did not mostly suffered water damage.

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CICEL

11:31 am on Friday, November 16, 2012

I also don't think the "paralell" to 9/11 is appropriate - this pales in comparison. This is a loss of property, not a tremendous loss of life. Article had great potential but you lost me once you tried to compare it to 9/11, or even Katrina. Lives were saved because of the precautions taken - otherwise it would have been as tragic as Katrina. In the years that pass the heartache will lessen and people will rebuild - nothing compared to the child that has a parent who will never see another one of their birthdays, soccer games, wedding, etc... And that is why mortgage companies require flood insurance in those areas - because what happened was always a real possibility. Just keep building and building, mother nature doesn't care (and for the record, we own on the island, lost the entire first floor and do not have flood insurance, a gamble we lost).

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Brittany Everett

12:09 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

The comments on this story reveal two things: 1. Human nature is despicable, and 2. people will do anything to cause a rise through false information. It's called trolling. Google it if you must. Whether you disagree with the 911 parallel, or truly believe there are thousands of bodies floating around in the water, keep your useless, detrimental, and unverified nonsense to yourself. Less than a handful of people actually commented on the content of this story. The story is touching and heartfelt - something everyone at the shore can use right now. We have enough garbage in our front yards, we don't need people spewing their own.

I thank the author for writing a story, alongside many others, that reveal the true beauty of our towns. How lucky we are to have memories from this area that cannot be destroyed.

Let's not taint them with fallacy and ignorance.

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John Hayes

12:27 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

And the pictures showing these alleged bodies would be.....where?

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Xavier

12:43 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

I think she's being sarcastic John.

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John Hayes

12:53 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

What will be nice is when bodies are everywhere, back out on the beach on sunny summer days, in the ocean, on the sand. Looking forward to that.

lacey voter

12:41 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

I think FEMA needs to do a helicopter drop of prozac at Karen Reagans house. Obviously her prescription ran out

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Mr J

1:07 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

So the Local government does not want to upset people? What about the families ?? were they told to be quiet to ?? Enough of this already ...lets move on to help restore peoples lives... Those who have lost have suffered enough

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Jillian V

2:36 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

Wow, this article was very vivid and so heartfelt. It literally brings Jersey and this entire disaster right home. I cannot believe this happened. I love you NJ, the memories, the friends, the family, the beach, everything.

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shannon

5:15 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

OMG, you people are nuts! You need about a weeks stay in a padded room somewhere. If you think there were over 1,000 bodies than you need heavy, heavy doses of meds. What about the relatives of all those dead people....where are all the funerals at??? Crazy is as crazy does.

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larry

5:26 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

Some people will belive anything and prove how much of a idiot they are. There is no reason they would want to hide a body count and could not do it if they wanted to

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kate

10:24 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

U go larry and john u r totally right,that other woman is off her rocker,good luck jersey shore u will shine again..kc from tr

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Sandra

10:37 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012

I have been noticing the obituaries that have been posted for over a week. Names of young and old that lived along the shore. I wondered if....

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Ken G

9:57 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

You people are sick, these are not "rumors". It would be in the newspaper? Do you think they would put everything in the newspaper? You are all dumb for believing everything you read. Could not do it if they wanted to? They are. Off my meds, that's pathetic. 1,000 deaths? No, maybe 100 is more like it. Spewing their own garbage? You know what, that's very offensive, because I found this out from reliable people who put their jobs on the line to confirm it. The ignorance is choosing to just ignore what's happening. Tell me why they awry confirming it then. Unverified nonsense? That's not what this is. I have VERIFIED it with many People who I cannot say. Why would I want to say something that isn't true? I myself have been affected by the storm, so how dare you say I'm lying. Wow he's nuts, I've never been to seaside post sandy, but I'll trust why my government tells me is true! Even if residents, FEMA, an others who worked over there confirmed it

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Ken G

10:02 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

Why am I even speaking of it? Because its wrong that the government will not release the real number. It's unethical, and they need to release it.

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bayboat

10:15 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

Ken...you're proving yourself to be more gullible/ dumber than the average teenager.
Talking to someone who says "trust me its true" isn't verifying..its called spreading a rumor.
Go find 1000 bodies...then youve confirmed its true.
Go talk to 1000 families who confirm 1000 dead....then youve confirmed its true.
Go talk to the coroner ( who would have seen all the bodies) and have him confirm 1000.
Until then... you havent confirmed a thing...you're just a gullible and dumb kid spreading a rumor

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craig

10:18 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

I'll be right back! I have to finish watching the "Twilight Zone". My sorces tell me i'ts a true story.

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bayboat

10:33 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

MY sources tell me KenG is a govt operative.
I talked to someone who TOLD me its true!
Ive VERIFIED it!
LOL!

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Jay Gee

4:33 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

SOURCES....ANYWAY, WHO KNOWS IF TRUE OR NOT. MUST BE A WAY TO FIND OUT THOUGH. CHECK OBITS. FROM APP. OCT. 29TH, 30TH. LEMME KNOW.

bayboat

10:24 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012

Ken if you REALLY want to prove 1000 deaths...I mean REALLY want to. List all the funerals from all the families burying their dead relatives who died from the storm.
They're listed in the paper every day .
Unless!....they're blackops funerals run by a secret fema funeral service!

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Part Timer

12:05 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

There is only one reason why (if true) that they are not telling the truth on how many people have died...
They, the dead, are illegal immigrants and might not even had any type of ID....

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Missing Brick

12:46 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

I've been walking around in the tick of it for three weeks and other than the one body picked out the day after I have not personally witness any others. If there were 1000 bodies, damn, I would be tripping over them. In this case, I believe the government is reporting things as they find them as they have no reason to hide the death toll anyway.

The fraud I count on will come when the insurance companies must pay up. They will invent creative ways to say they do not cover what people paid them to protect. I have already hired a lawyer to review my claim for this reason and make sure I'm not on the wrong end of this process.

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David Karnes

7:01 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

There can't be dead they all showed up and voted for OB

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Jenna

8:15 pm on Saturday, November 17, 2012

All people need to do is unite and work as a team to rebuild. No matter how poor or how rich you are ,what race ,what religion ,immigrant or citizen ...rebuild & stand as one. 100 helping hands are more useful than a thousand clasped in prayer.

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Jay Gee

1:34 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

you are absolutley correctamundo. let's see if the gentry will do so....some will try. others will stand on their own, or fall on their own. remains to be seen.

John Lutz

12:00 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012

Get prepared for more.............

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Jay Gee

1:32 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

yeah, i figure that the higher powers have more in store for the corrupt top notch clowns in the towns. too bad the innocent have to suffer along with them. and the corruption goes much deeper than anyone knows. we learn a little more each day, quite by accident, i might add. if the shore leaders don't wise up, or if they are not thrown out, arrested, whatever, i think more, yes, prepare....................

Patty Edy

12:49 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012

After Hurricane Andrew, we had no power for 5 weeks and no phones for 4 months. We did not evacuate and leave our property. We also heard rumors of dead that were kept secret. The Miami Herald even ran an ad that they would pay if anyone could give them any names. Rumors are not helpful! Be thankful.

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Jay Gee

1:30 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012

ugh! that's just terrible to go through also. more terrible than this and my son is one of those who has place at shore

Jersey Shore Mom

8:47 am on Sunday, November 18, 2012

People were warned to leave- what warning did 911 people have?

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Ken G

8:38 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

Obviously, i'm just telling you the info I was given. It's a shame how you've all acted. I know what I was told, and if you choose not to believe me than so be it. I've no reason to say this other wise. Instead of discussing it, you instead decided to go and reply with stupid comments about me. Also where did you get 1,000 bodies from? I NEVER said 1,000. Also, to those who said you saw no bodies...were you looting in people's houses? Thats the only way you could know 100% there were none. Therefore, those who went through walkthroughs of the towns and saw nothing on the outside do not proove there was or wasn't any deaths. The Suriviors know what they saw, and those who know the real count know it. There's nothing I can do for you to change your belief. I came in here to tell you info I recieved from suriviors and workers. Instead I got bashed from every angle. Everybody was effected by the storms, there's no reason to create "rumors".

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A Resident

9:08 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

Hey Ken, the "people" that told you this info are getting a real good laugh seeing how gullable you are by posting your "facts" on the Patch.

Thanks for doing your part in providing some humor for people.

PS - Ya, I'm a survivor.

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bayboat

2:34 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012

Ken G says "theres no reason to create rumors"....as hes spreading rumors.
Also...in a rational, well thought out sentence...please explain WHY those who (supposedly) know the (supposedly) correct number arent talking. Explain WHY these "survivors" are keeping the ACTUAL number from their friends/neighbors/community. WHY are these "survivors" keeping the rest of us in the dark?

Ken G

9:47 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

You think it's funny that people died? It's humourous? no they aernt laughing. Why? Because they have NOTHING left. They rode out the storm in Seaside Heights and were trapped out there for several days.

P.S- We all are.

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Ken G

9:53 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

Logically do you honestly believe that people died in all the towns around Seaside but not a single person in Seaside did? You saw it on the news. there was people out there as the storm came ashore. You've seen the state the Barrier Islands are in....and you say NOT ONE, person did not pass away during the storm? The homeless, and addicts that stayed behind (yes, they are people too!), some who stayed behind in their houses...not ONE passed away? Even if it's just ONE, it needs to be reported.

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bayboat

10:11 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

So go to the obituaries in the paper, find it and REPORT IT ALREADY!
Unless they were buried in secret Fema funerals.

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Project Bluebeam

10:22 am on Monday, November 19, 2012

Ken, you're too young to remember 9-11 so I'll enlighten you. People were missing and their loved ones were everywhere asking for info. Any info. They put up flyers, they formed support groups, they put ads in the papers. WHERE are all the family members of these "bodies" in Seaside? Where are the facebook pages dedictaed to finding the lost? Where are the tweets? The meetings? 7 on your side? Could it be that you were duped by a FEMA agent who was just messin' with a gullible kid? Or are you just perpetuating an unsubstantiated rumor you heard in the lunchroom?

Ken G

2:06 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012

Too young to remember 911? I remember everything, don't compare sandy to 911.

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Project Bluebeam

2:47 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012

Where are the grieving families of the "thousands" that perished?

Jesse James

2:48 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012

911 was more than 10 years ago. get over it. more people die from being fat. stop spending tax money on monuments and other nonsense and stop letting the family of people killed there dictate what happens. If this guy tittel is correct the whole area will be under water in a few years anyway.

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Project Bluebeam

2:52 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012

You have a better chance of dying from the aftermath of the Yellowstone Caldera erupting.

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