19-Year-Old Becomes RBR's Newest BOE Member
The Red Bank resident, who ran with the backing of the Socialist Party USA, defeated incumbent Nilsa Samol in November's election.
A 19-year-old Red Bank resident joined two returning members Wednesday night to be sworn in as members of the Red Bank Regional Board of Education.
Patrick Noble, who ran as the "socialist candidate" in November, took the oath for a three-year-term along with Michael N. Megill of Little Silver and Randy Mendelson of Shrewsbury.
Noble defeated incumbent Nilsa Samol 1,033 to 881 votes in November. He ran unsuccessfully for a seat on the Monmouth County Board of Freeholders in 2011.
Both Megill and Mendelson ran unopposed for their board seats.
A graduate of the Academy of Allied Health and Science, Noble attended Red Bank Schools from kindergarten through eighth grade, according to his Web site.
Following his win in November, Noble posted on the site, "I am a 19 year old socialist, uncompromisingly anti-capitalist, and I would like to work against budget cuts and help make students free to learn."
Susan
6:51 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
"Free to learn" at who's expense? How much did his education at Allied cost the taxpayers of Monmouth County? Running against budget cuts?
Ryan
8:28 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Welcome back Mike and Randy!
Andres Simonson
8:57 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
First of all, although he may have "ran" as a Socialist candidate, there were no party affiliations on the ticket. I suspect that if the Socialist label were there for all to see in the voting booth, his returns would have been considerably lower. Just my guess.
Second, the Socialist party is one thing (and bad enough), but this is the same candidate that has posted his picture in the past proudly standing in front of a hammer and sickle flag. Yes, the flag closely associated with the Communist Party. You know, the same symbol proudly flown by the Soviets as they committed mass murder and countless other atrocities. I hope those horrors will still make the history curriculum under Mr. Noble's tenure on the Board.
Bennett Foster
2:46 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
"but this is the same candidate that has posted his picture in the past proudly standing in front of a hammer and sickle flag. Yes, the flag closely associated with the Communist Party. You know, the same symbol proudly flown by the Soviets as they committed mass murder and countless other atrocities." hmmm I'm not a fan of authoritarian governments that kill masses of people either... such as the United States and our allies. Bravo to Pat for standing for socialism. Another world is possible!
David Petrovich
5:30 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Sadly, our corporate media has done a wonderful job distorting terms such as socialism, communism, capitalism, democracy, fascism, nationalism, etc. I say we should do away with labels which are designed to divide us, and concentrate on issues which impact our daily lives. As far as the flag comment... the US Flag and the corporate military and exploitative economic system it represents is one of the most feared on the planet... and not because of its good will toward men.
Andres Simonson
8:25 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
@ Bennett - to compare the Gulag concentration camps and mass deportations of the Soviets to any action of the U.S. is simply bad logic. No comparison. Plain and simple, the hammer and sickle are on a par with the swastika. I'm no across the board U.S. apologist (Iraq, for example), but please apply some context.
Andres Simonson
8:28 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
@ David - the U.S. flag is only a feared symbol in the most repressive corners of the world. I don't think your socialist ideals will hold up in any of those locations where the U.S. flag is "feared" as you put it. Funny how you want to do away with labels (when it suits your cause) but then bring up negative labels in your next sentence.
Andres Simonson
8:33 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
This forum does not allow for a good old fashioned debate. How about we meet at a local pub? We'll even use a socialist forum. Each according to his/her needs, right? So, we should have equal amounts of beer in our glasses. If my glass is lower, I have a greater need - I will fill it from your bottle. Now, I have a "need" for quality beer - craft beer only please. Problem is, we're eventually going to run out of other people's beer.
Andres Simonson
9:01 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
@ David's 2nd reply (I think he accidentally posted under the wrong string). Fair enough. If you really want to know, I take a Libertarian view on foreign intervention, so I see some of your point. But don't forget, we are also the greatest humanitarian nation ever. Still, we are venturing off topic. I posted only to say (a) it is misleading to say Mr. Noble ran as a socialist when the position was non-affiliated and (b) that I find the hammer and sickle symbol repulsive (personal, this goes back to my Estonian roots and family lost). We can continue other debates as I suggested herein, above.
Ian Hartman
11:44 pm on Saturday, March 30, 2013
Look up Pinochet. the US government supported him while he killed 20,000 people
Susan
9:09 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Anyone who affiliates himself with the socialist thought of mind has not worked 14 hour days, paid payroll taxes, property taxes, income taxes . They want their "fair" share off everyone else's blood, sweat and tears. Our country is in the crapper. I want everything for free too but was raised the right way.
Atlee Yarrow
2:12 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
I do not believe Pat Noble has ever worked a real 40 hour job, for years on end, like many taxpayers have and now he controls to some degree those same dollars. More folks need to watch this guy closely and see what he does. With a hashtag like #revunity from his website there could be need for future election concerns here.
Bennett Foster
3:02 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
It was the socialists who won the 8 hour day by giving the labor movement some teeth. And we still fight, to make sure we can keep it. The overtime (I hope) you make is thanks to the hard work of people who think you deserve it. I think overtime is fair. And so is having a voice in the work place. If we didn't have socialist you would have been raised in a sweatshop. Capitalists will never stop fighting to take away the weekend and the minimum wage. Socialists will never stop defending ourselves.
Atlee Yarrow
3:13 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Actually Bennett Foster, "the socialists who won the 8 hour day" is not the labor movement and made no such laws. The CIO ejected the IWW and formed the AFL-CIO before the new laws went into effect under a democrat government with a republican formation. The record of "socialists" did this or that is pure myth and there are no formal records to back such a claim.
David Petrovich
8:44 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Andres, thanks for your comments. I would expand upon your "the US flag is only feared in the most repressive corners of the world" to include the villages and schools upon which the US Military drops bombs from above in secret or with Congressioonal approval... in more countries than can be named. The US is the largest emperialist nation in the history of the world. That isn't a socialist idealogy, my friend. That is history. A mind is like a parachute. It only works when its open.
Maureen Hourigan
10:18 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
A good reason to get involved and start going to the meetings and monitoring what is being done.
service
12:52 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Why is it that Red Bank gets 3 BOE members when Little Silver & Shrewsbury only get 1? They don't send more students or more money than LS & Shrewsbury.
Amy Byrnes
1:02 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
From the high school's Web site: "The Board of Education is composed of nine citizens elected from our constituent districts. Representatives are elected on the basis of constituent population - two from Little Silver, five from Red Bank, and two from Shrewsbury."
rbresident
2:20 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Red Bank has a higher population than shrewsbury and LS combined.
Ryan
3:24 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
As of 2011- Population is as follows:
LS 5,956
Shrews- 3,813
RB- 12,206
Dentss Dunnagun
4:11 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I bet this put a big smile on Trinity Hall administration face
Mark
8:49 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
"...and I would like to work against budget cuts and help make students free to learn."
"make students free to learn"??? uh oh...
Where exactly does Mr. Noble think the money comes from? Are teachers now volunteering? I'd love to read a more encompassing (and grammatically correct) statement from Mr. Noble concerning this topic.
Susan
9:17 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
About two years ago the black fist of the socialist movement poster was hanging in the hallways of RBR. My son notified me and when I called the school I was told they did not notice them displayed. I confirmed what my son told me with other parents who confirmed their children also saw them hanging on the walls. . The logo of a black fist showing power is similar to the Black Panthers logo... Let us all remember Trooper Foerster who was executed because he was white by the Black Panthers. This is only one of the many reasons I choose to school my youngest at home. I choose to teach him that we live in a wonderful democratic country called America that many men and women fight and die to protect the system our founding Fathers set up. I wonder why so many want to change our wonderful country. Actually I would hope they get the hell out if they don't like our system. I for one would give them a ride to the airport or border and happily wave bye-bye.
"Socialism is a philosphy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. " Winston Churchhill
Ian Hartman
11:49 pm on Saturday, March 30, 2013
Capitalism, is the philosophy of theft. The worker produces wealth and the capitalist steals it, and gives him/her back a pittance
Andrew Gorman
12:20 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Best wishes to comrade Noble. The capitalist middle men are taking the surplus that workers produce. It is time to cut out that middle man. To readers: to not give in to the lies about taxes. Socialists favor lower taxes on the vast majority of the 99%.
Socialism: good enough for Eugene V Debs, Albert Einstein, Helen Heller, Bertrand Russel, Martin Luther King, Gandhi, George Orwell, WEB DuBois, A. Phillip Randolph, Oscar Wilde, Edward Bellamy, Cornel West, Jeremy Scahill, John Dewey, Erich Fromm, Howard Zinn, Noam Chomsky, and Upton Sinclair.
Good enough for me!
Dentss Dunnagun
8:53 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Read Ayn Rand ( which is banned in most schools) and the destruction it does to a country let alone individual thinking .....Once you graduate you realize that you have virtually no background in personal finance, budgeting, planning and achieving financial independence....Everyone expects the government to spoon-feed them....This monopoly in education is created and maintained by the public service unions (socialist leaning) and our brain-dead governments who pander to everyone....The government and unions need to get out of the education system...
Ian Hartman
11:50 pm on Saturday, March 30, 2013
If the rich went on strike we could take over the factories and run them democratically. If the workers go on strike the capitalists don't make any money.
Who are the parasites again
Atlee Yarrow
2:01 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
I am not surprised that a socialist won such a seat, but what we need to know is what has changed in education since the 1940's until today. Education and all its associated institutions were once very different and not as liberal.
David Petrovich
5:39 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Most of the history books used in public schools to teach our children, and used in colleges and universities to train future teachers... are written from the perspective of the winners... those empire builders equipped with better guns, horses, and diseases. Few, if any, discuss the struggles of the conqueored. The socialist movement 100 years ago was proximate cause to many of the social programs and reforms in force today... which are slowly being whittled away. Anyone here know about ALEC? or the NDAA?
Susan
5:44 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
The NDAA.. serious questions have come up regarding Obama giving himself additional powers to kill any American at anytime he feels they are a threat to our country. He has made himself every American Citizens judge, jury and executer.
David Petrovich
6:21 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Actually, NDAA has had enthusiastic bi-partisian support and belongs to the office holder. I'll Bombya expanded the powers (and practices) introduced by BushCo and the public authors of the new world order. There are many things to be worried about. If you are in the top 2% of wealth, you should be worried about democratic socialism.
David Petrovich
9:17 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
I like the idea of Green Drinks, and participated in one in RB a year or so ago at the Molly Pitcher. I'm not quite sure how the reply feature works on this blog, so sorry for the confusion. My grandparents fled the Ukraine due to intolerable conditions. They knew the difference between the original Bolshevics and then later the Communist Party and its tight control (in the hands of a few) of tools of industry and production, natural resources, etc which is antithetic to an economic democracy as espoused by democratic socialists. I am for doing away with labels... some people have mistakenly referred to me as a Liberal. I am not. Let me know when Green Drinks are on again.
Andres Simonson
12:05 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
@ David - no worries, I was able to follow your posts. Yes, Green Drinks would be a great forum to continue the discussion. Alas, time has become more scarce and I haven't been able to organize on that front. Maybe soon. I don't seem to have you on my listserv, but will update the webpage.
(And to clarify a mistake, I earlier said "across the board US-apologist" where I should have said US-defender - meaning I thought Iraq II was unjustified, and just a huge mistake)
Concerned
12:29 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
GOD HELP US!!
Randy Mendelson
9:31 pm on Friday, January 4, 2013
All of you sound intelligent and reasonable, despite differing perspectives. Looking forward to meeting you at any future RBR school board meeting, as well as working with Patrick
Bennett Foster
9:28 pm on Sunday, January 6, 2013
Atlee Yarrow? lol He hasn't been clear on this page but Atlee obviously has a special problem with the SP. here's some back ground from his own campaign website: Atlee joined the SP-USA in late 1999 during the election campaigns in neither candidate did he see his values.
As a Socialist politician he was expelled from the Socialist Party of the United States of America on June 9, 2007 during the Socialist Party of Florida’s state convention without charge or notice via kangaroo court held by Marc E. Luzietti with only new party members being invited. Luzietti has been an outspoken atheist during both public and private events and it is believed that Atlee's Christian Social values played a role the personal attack that launched Luzietti into negative action to destroy and rebuild from within the SPFL." heheheh "it is believed"
Atlee Yarrow
3:50 am on Monday, January 7, 2013
Well, Saichairí Rián McGrath (Facebook name) aka Bennett Foster, what is obvious is the attention given to me is paramount for a reason from communists who are no longer within the SP because of the fight given over the direction. The SP is not and never has been a communistic organization and clearly states this within its website and since 1919 has expelled all communists from socialist policy making. The "special problem" is communism and would-be dictatorships that I will always fight against.
rod
12:14 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
i don't care what party he may or may not be, but don't you think their should be some requirements to be on the Board of Ed? how about a college degree? or experience as an educator? this is a joke
Atlee Yarrow
3:03 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Sadly there are no requirements for running for public office except one, the presidency which has two: Must be a U.S.A. citizen of natural birth and secondly, over the age of 35.
The only way to change something like this is to put it in front of our legislators or voters in a public referendum.
JRod
12:20 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Shouldn't you have to have a college degree to sit on a High School board? As a RBR grad I am completely embarrassed by this. This loser is using RBR's board to pollute the community with his Socialist B.S.. Pat, try getting a college degree then a real job. Pay some taxes then come back with your radical crap.
Atlee Yarrow
3:06 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
HERE, HERE! More elected officials need to have been not only educated, but have lived in the real world environment to pay bills and taxes. Then such a person might have something coherently intelligible to say to the people who do likewise.
Susan
3:32 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
We need to wake up., these radical anti US are infiltrating our government locally and nationally.
What is happening to our country is because too many turned their heads.
David Petrovich
3:51 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Don't look now Rip (as in Rip Van Winkle), I mean Susan. That ship has long sailed with the radical right guiding our country away from democracy straight toward fascism. We are supposed to be all about democracy, right? Yet we, the majority, have little to say about anything. Our elected officials are lapdogs to a corporate owned political system and a run amok economic system which boasts endless wars for private corporate profit, desecration of our natural resources and environment (again, for private corporate profit) and a healthcare deivery system which boasts outrageous compensation for its owners at the expense of those who need basic healthcare and die from the lack of access to affordable healthcare. Our economic system is antithetic to democracy... yet most robotically defend it as sacrosanct without understanding how it works... or how a true econimic democracy could work. In our society, we have socialism for the rich... and capitalism for the rest of us. I agree. Its high time we pull our heads out from our respective orifices... and see what's going on. Realize. Real Eyes. Real Lies.
Atlee Yarrow
2:54 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Well David Petrovich, how would a "true economic democracy" work? In case after case, the people have spoken in each election; therefore, "the majority" have spoken in democratic fashion on a great many issues. I find when the word "true" is used, it becomes an abuse and agenda having zero basis in facts or figures. Now if you or others care to present an actual case, then do so.
David Petrovich
5:44 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
What a tired, ill-informed comment, Atlee. Only half the eligible voters cast a ballot and the vote is usually split. The problem is that both major partties, the corporate owned and controlled parties offer basically the same choices... so the vote, in my opinion, has become a meaningless charade. Whichever corporate shill wins, we still have war, poverty, and all of society's ills.
Can I point to an actual. modern example of a working, economic and social democracy? No. Our forefathers and foremothers when devising their new society were forced to consider the ancients for their model. Today, we need a new paradigm. The good news is History is on our side. We have the tools and talents. Like our forefathers & mothers, we can envision a new way to live in harmony with nature & with others, for the benefit of the majority, with equal rights for all. Necessity is the Mother Of Invention.
Atlee Yarrow
6:33 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@David, what irony, in past history of communistic countries the half that wanted to vote in dictatorships were mass murdered. Sadly, the half in America who don't vote, often don't care either way as long as their sphere of influence "bubble" is not popped.
If history is on your side here, then world is in big trouble. Socialism has been trying to get out of hypothesis to a theory into a working model for one hundred and fifty years now? All attempts have been massive failures. Where people come together in social events and actions might be a place to start, but socialization begins at home where the family invents the person we each become, not how we interact.